[identity profile] ibmiller.livejournal.com
Section notes - from "The long summer's day was ending" to "He is an Annux, a king of kings."

In today's post, I'm going to pose two questions about all the chapters, and then a unique question for each chapter. I will then answer each of the questions with my own answers, and hope they're interesting enough to provoke discussion!

Questions for all four chapters:

1) What is accomplished in this chapter? (Could also be phrased, "Why does this chapter exist?")

2) If the chapters had titles, what would you call this chapter?

Individual chapter questions:

11: Is Barond Erondites an effective villain?

12: How has Irene changed since The Queen of Attolia?

13: Is the duel effective as a narrative/scene?

14: Is the reaction of the guard to Gen plausible?

My answers behind the cut! )
[identity profile] agh-4.livejournal.com
Welcome to April, the month before the month of Thick as Thieves! This week, we’re reading from “The stool hit the wall with a satisfying crash” to “Costis returned to his room, freed himself of belt and breastplate, and fell, otherwise fully dressed, onto his bed.” As always, these discussions are spoiler free for “The Wine Shop,”The Knife Dance,” and the Thick as Thieves arc, but we WILL probably discuss content from all four published books. Page numbers are from the 2006 paperback.

The discussion for the first five chapters is here. Next week, led by [livejournal.com profile] ibmiller , we will finish the book!

What could possibly happen in a five-chapter chunk that begins and ends in Costis’s room? EVERYTHING.

Summaries and assorted questions )

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I'd like to take a moment in this post to acknowledge and remember [livejournal.com profile] philia_fan, whose username came from Chapter Eight. Philia meant a lot to many of us here, and it was very sad to lose her when she passed away five years ago. Her insight shaped my readings of these books as much as her thoughtfulness shaped my experience of this community. So, so, so, shoutout to Philia. <3
[identity profile] ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com
Read the transcript from Sunday night's chat.

In which we discuss...

The lastest TaT summary

"The Knife Dance" and "Wine Shop"

LAVA

Goats

Goats avoiding Lava

#thankseugenides

The identity Gitta Kingsdaughter

The Magus's historical writings

Textbooks are $$$

Enjoy! And don't be afraid to join us for future chats. We don't bit! Only the goats do.

[identity profile] pendrecarc.livejournal.com
Many thanks to [livejournal.com profile] ninedaysaqueen for organizing this!

This is the third discussion for Queen of Attolia. The first section is here, and the second is here.

These discussions are spoiler free for the new short stories, “The Wine Shop” and “The Knife Dance,” as well as the Thick as Thieves arc.

There will be spoilers for books 1-4, so if you haven’t read all the published books yet, proceed with caution.

Next week is a break week with a chat on March 19th.

***

I'm going to structure this a little differently, with a very brief (and irreverent) summary under the cut and discussion topics in comments to this post. If you want to start new comment threads with completely different topics, please do!

Section three runs from Chapter 15, which begins "Attolia turned to look at him, where he kneeled watching her face," and Chapter 21, which ends, "And she believed him."

In which...Read more... )
[identity profile] live-momma.livejournal.com
If you haven't already, check out last week's discussion of QoA Section One (chapters 1-8) lead by [livejournal.com profile] ninedaysaqueen.

This week we’re reading from the beginning of Chapter 9, "The hunting retreat was a summer home..." through the end of Chapter 14, "...and ran back down the rampart stairs even faster than he had climbed them."

Chapters 9-14 of The Queen of Attolia
These discussions are spoiler free for the new short stories, “The Wine Shop” and “The Knife Dance,” as well as the “Thick as Thieves” arc.

There will be spoilers for books 1-4, so if you haven’t read all the published books yet, proceed with caution.

Read more... )


"My Queen?"
"Only for that."


Next week we will continue with QoA chapters 15-21 lead by [livejournal.com profile] pendrecarc!
[identity profile] ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com
“I could run away and make myself a free man.”
“Oh, I’d find you.”
-The Queen of Attolia

I asked our authoress if it was okay for me to write a spoiler free review, and she gleefully gave me permission to “torture” you all! Thank you so much, Megan! XD

Now, for the real trick… How to review a QT book without giving anything away. This is a no spoiler review as it says on the tin. I’m sworn to secrecy.

However, I will be talking openly about the information revealed in the summaries published online (I have to have something to work with), so if you don’t want to know even that about the new book, beware of small spoilers. I wrote this to be as general as possible and nothing specific is revealed.


We're Thick as Thieves )


[identity profile] ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com
This week we’re reading from, “He was asleep, but woke at the sound of the key turning in the lock.” To “‘He sighed inwardly.”

Chapters 1-8 of QoA.
These discussions are spoiler free for the new short stories, “The Wine Shop” and “The Knife Dance,” as well as the “Thick as Thieves” arc.

There may be spoilers for books 1-4, so if you haven’t read all the published books yet, proceed with caution.
Long Post is Long )
[identity profile] manderelee.livejournal.com
Hey guys, ever since we got all the exciting news a couple of weeks ago, I've been inspired to sketch and make stuff for QT. I posted them on Tumblr and DA, but I just want to share them here!
Pictures under cut! )
[identity profile] pendrecarc.livejournal.com
And we've reached the end! Thank you so much to [livejournal.com profile] ninedaysaqueen for coordinating.

This week's discussion covers chapters 10 through the end, from "When I woke, the sun was up and the day was already warm." to " 'Thank you, thief.' 'You're welcome, my queen.' "

That is, I believe, the first time we hear anyone addressed directly as "My queen." It certainly isn't the last. :)

There's so much to cover here! Gen stealing the Gift a second time; more interference from the gods; Ambiades' and Pol's deaths; an introduction to the queens of Attolia and Eddis; and of course the revelations of Ambiades' treachery and Eugenides' true identity and motives.

I'm going to try something a little different with this post. I'll start a few threads in the comments, each with its own topic, which will hopefully seed the discussion in different directions! Feel free to respond to each of those if the topic interests you, or reply to this post and start your own.
[identity profile] an-english-girl.livejournal.com
For the third week of The Thief read-along, we’re covering chapters 7 to 9, from “Good feelings persisted between myself and the Magus until the next morning...” to “Darkness that was deeper than the river swallowed me up.”

They’re some pretty exciting chapters, as we finally get to see Gen ‘in action’ professionally, as it were, rather than just active in driving the Magus nuts, baiting the Uselesses and generally pursuing his own agenda :)Chapters 7-9 discussion )
[identity profile] silverflight8.livejournal.com
Welcome to the second part of the anniversary read-along of The Thief! This week's read-along is chapters 4-6. It starts with the sentence "WE STOPPED AGAIN EARLY IN the evening." and ends with "Did he sound genuinely flattered?" I'm not going to give page numbers because I have an ebook version, but my discussion's mostly chronological and I'll give quotes.

Like all the readalongs - SPOILERS! I'll also talk a little bit about the other books, so be wary if you haven't read them yet.

Chapters 4-6 discussion )

Stay tuned for the next instalment next week, hosted by [livejournal.com profile] an_english_girl, for chapters 7-9!
[identity profile] booksrgood4u.livejournal.com
Hey everyone!!

Guess what today is? It's Miss Megan's birthday! Y'all know what that means - time to sign the birthday card (so sorry I didn't get this up a day early as I usually do, having major tech issues)

So without further ado, here's the card -

Happy Birthday! )

Edited to add:[livejournal.com profile] filkferengi let me know that the image isn't loading, so if you're having trouble, you can view the card on my Tumblr page (Megan has lots of fans on Tumblr in case anyone here is also a Tumblr user)
http://booksrgood4u.tumblr.com/post/133675958877/happy-birthday-to-ms-megan-whalen-turner-hop-on

May you be blessed in your endeavors and may Sophos (and Gen for that matter) leave your birthday cake happily alone!

~books
[identity profile] ricardienne.livejournal.com
At the beginning of Costis' first interview with Eugenides, he is reminded by the king's neat flip of cups into the air that not only did he attack the king whom he swore to defend, but he punched a man who was not capable of punching back:
Read more... )

#Unlikely

Mar. 24th, 2015 01:49 pm
[identity profile] puppeteergirl.livejournal.com
Excerpt from CoK:

Sounis turned to the magus. "Did you know?"

"That he was relentless?" The magus finished his question. "Yes. That he had this in mind, no. I did not realize that he disliked the ambassador so much."

"Melheret has a reputation as one of the best swordsmen in the Mede court," a soldier informed them, having overheard. "They say he trained the former ambassador, Nahuseresh."

"Ah," said the magus, understanding at once. "I see that he means to be prepared if he meets him again."

"Surely that's unlikely," said Sounis.

"I don't think unlikely means to him what it does to the rest of us," said the magus.

Sorry magus, I'm starting to agree with Sophos.

Let's do some math, folks!
The Thief 1996
Five years later: QoA 2001
Five years later: KoA 2006
Four years later: CoK 2010

As of yesterday, it has been five years since CoK was released. I think we're due.

Yet, no news. Interviews from MWT have dwindled. Sounis has grown quiet. The majority of posts by its members tend to be about other fandoms, or asking for reading suggestions.  Because we have NOTHING to read.

Will Eugenides ever get his revenge? #watchoutpointybeard #swordskillz

Will the Eddisians escape the sacred mountain in time? #ohnolava #zipcodechange

Will we ever find out why the woman in the kitchen still includes sand in certain recipes?  #what'swrongwiththegravy #i'mnothungry

Is the poor elephant doomed to wait ten years before he is stolen from a nameless intimidator? #impatientpachyderm #omghowcanistealthat

Will I ever break this cycle of despair when I read those fatal words, "'You gave me the gun.' They both laughed." and realize I just finished the book, with nothing new in sight? #whatnow

I know, I know. Stop whining and go to bed.

This has been a pity party by puppeteergirl. #icandoanythingiwant #smashinginkpots

Proceed with your attempted encouragements or your commiserations below.

Gen-types

Dec. 12th, 2014 08:43 pm
[identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
I feel like maybe we've discussed this before but, well, we like talking about the same things again sometimes, right?

So recently I read a book which was OK, but I didn't love. When trying to figure out what exactly wasn't working for me, I realized one of the big issues I had--I felt like the author was trying to make one of the main characters into a Gen-type character, but was failing.

(To be completely honest, my first thought was, "This book would just be so much better if it was about Lord Peter instead." I think I'm due for a LPW re-read.)

So I started trying to figure out why I felt like the character failed to live up to the "Gen" type.

I started by trying to think of successful Gen-type characters. I know some are missing from this list, but these are the first I came up with--

Gen (obviously)
Lord Peter Wimsey
Sir Percy (the Scarlet Pimpernel)
Miles Vorkosigan
Chrestomanci
the Doctor

My list stopped there, even though I KNOW that I've read other books with this character type--help me out here, guys.


Then, I tried to decide what characteristics made this mold. The characters I listed above fit most or all of these characteristics:

clever and witty--quick thinking
intelligent--long term thinking
people skills--good at reading and understanding people
Aristocratic/privileged background, usually with a sense of style to go with it
Brave--sometimes in almost a daredevil way
Stick to a code/personal beliefs
Sometimes works in disguise or with another identity (not always literally)

That's all I have so far.

So what I'd be curious to discuss are these questions:

What other characters would you add to this list, and why do you think they fit? (Particularly if they're from books I haven't read ;-) Would you take away any I listed?
What characteristics would you add to this list--or take away from it?
Why do you think this character type appears repeatedly?
[identity profile] maidenbeckah.livejournal.com
I spotted this at a store esterday, and just couldn't help thinking of Eugenides and Irene.

Attolis&Attolia

I'm starting to see those two everywhere.
[identity profile] booksrgood4u.livejournal.com
Hey Sounis!

It's time to sign Megan's birthday card! Her birthday is tomorrow, but as usual, the card is going up a day early so everyone has a chance to sign. So, without further ado, everyone get in line sign the card, and no one steal the pen.....I'm talking to you, Eugenides!

Open the Card )

For my part, I'd like to wish Megan a very happy birthday -  may Gen never steal your earrings and may Sophos leave your birthday cake happily alone!

~books

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Nov. 15th, 2014 12:38 pm
[identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
So, I came across this quote on Tumblr today. How could I NOT think of Eugenides?

“Myths are stories about people who become too big for their lives temporarily, so that they crash into other lives or brush against gods. In crisis their souls are visible.”
- Anne Carson, Introduction to Grief Lessons: Four Plays by Euripides
[identity profile] heather mulhern
Hi, I guess I've mostly been lurking; I commented a couple times, but this is my first time posting.

I just finished rereading ACoK. There was a paragraph that near the end that caught my attention and really intrigued me, which I'd like to hear your thoughts on. It's at the end of chapter Twenty-Two on pg 310.

"Looking into his unsmiling face, Eddis knew it was as close as he would ever come to an accusation. He had been saved by the men Eugenides sent, though he did not yet know the ferocity with which the king of Attolia had stripped those men from other posts, the capital he had expended, the secrets that had been revealed in order to send help to Sounis. But Sophos had to know that she and Eugenides had let him ride away with an Attolian army at his back, believing that he needed it. With more faith in himself, and his father's army, he could have retaken his throne without Attolia's aid. He might not have followed that bloodier and more costly path, but Eddis and Attolis hadn't offered him the choice." (emphasis my own)

So my first thought was about the ferocity with which Gen got the men to send after Sophos, as I interpreted it, these are the men who reinforced them at Oneia. At first I assumed Gen's ferocity was only an indication of how much he cares for Sophos. We know he cares for him a lot (see pg 154 in ACoK where Eddis is thinking about the fact that Sophos holds Gen's heart and is the only one who could destroy him). But then I thought that it might be more than that.

Later on in the paragraph it says that Sophos could have retaken Sounis without Attolia's aid. Firstly I'm wondering could he? and how? Even with the ten-thousand Medes? Maybe if he'd been able to bring unite his barons and their forces before the Medes had a chance to land the rest of their army. Did Gen know about the ten-thousand Medes and send reinforcement because of that? Did he know before Sophos left Attolia for Sounis? Would earlier knowledge of the Mede numbers have led to different tactics that could have been ultimately less bloody?

There is strong support for the necessity of uniting the three countries for reasons that would probably be hard to persuade the general populaces about, maybe even various advisors. Such as Eddis' dreams of the mountain exploding. We also know that eventually the Mede will likely invade. Attolia's aid to Sophos in retaking his throne solidifies their treaty, this is likely why Gen and Eddis did not give Sophos another option, because they both need the three countries to be united. Maybe part of Gen's ferocity had to do with this and not just how he cares for Sophos.

The question I really want your thoughts on considering all of those musings (I'd like to hear your thoughts on those musings too). What secrets did Gen revel to send help to Sounis? Was it about the Mede troops? Some future threat from the Mede? Sources of Gen's information? Messages from the gods? Do you think we might find out in book 5? (I hope so). What secrets do you think were reveled?

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