Eddis, Attolia, Sounis

"If These Two People Don't Get Together, I'll Die"

Wed, 03 Feb 2021 11:06:00 GMT

Posted by: checkers65477.livejournal.com

There's another great article on tor.com titled Six Great SFF Love Stories, by Everina Mawell. And guess who her first OTP is? You got it--Eugenides and Attolia. Some other of my favorites are mentioned, too (Miles and Ekaterin!), plus, ideas for books I haven't yet read. Has anyone read Empire of Sand by Tasha Suri? It sounds like one I might like.

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QofA Question: Why was Eugenides moody on the mountain?

Thu, 12 Nov 2020 17:50:00 GMT

Posted by: cherryblosomjen.livejournal.com

I'm rereading QofA for the millionth time, and stumbled on a question (as I usually do--it's why these books are so rich and lovely--they never stop giving, no matter how many times you read them).

You know that iconic scene from chapter 9, where Eddis arranges for a picnic on the mountain with Eugenedes and the Magus? It's an opportunity to send multiple messages to Sounis and Attolia (1. It was the Eddisians who stole the Magus and 2. To suggest something amorous between Eddis and Eugenedes).

For the entire picnic, Eugenedes is in a sour mood. On my previous reads, I didn't think much of it because he was so often moody (and understandably so, considering all the trauma and ptsd and general mass of emotions). But Eddis seems to emphasize that she "knew the Magus wondered at [Gen's] bad temper." And, then, in the very next line, she explains: "We are sending a message to the QUeen of Attolia [about a supposed love affair between them]."

Is Eugenedes in a bad mood because he loves Attolia and doesn't want to send that message?

I'm asking because all the other reasons (like being considered useless etc, and having to live with the reputation that he creates for himself) are discussed much earlier in the passage and therefore not seemingly relevant....

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Sun, 26 Apr 2020 19:45:00 GMT

Posted by: freenarnian.livejournal.com

I saw a poem on Tumblr the other day, and as I read over this portion of it again today, with Queen's Thief very much on my mind (as usual), I thought of The Queen of Attolia:

Please: take my wavering shadow, wrap it around your

knuckles, tuck in its end with your scarred, nimble thumb.

Wind it into your warm palm and cast it out behind us,

next to yours, two narrow sails, frayed standards, rippling

side by side.

You can read the whole poem, by LeighAnna Schesser, here, but I've quoted the part that really stood out to me. "Wavering shadow" makes me think of Irene, the shadow princess, and "scarred, nimble thumb" obviously makes me think of Gen, and the "narrow sails, frayed standards," of the war that breaks out between them, before ultimately uniting them "side by side."

Yeah. These characters give me feels.

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Some Fanarts

Fri, 23 Jun 2017 22:05:00 GMT

Posted by: manderelee.livejournal.com

I've been posting a lot of fanarts on Tumblr, but I haven't shared them here yet. So here are a few of them. Hope you like!

( Beware, the large file sizes. And TaT spoiler. )

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Not telling on Valentines Day

Tue, 14 Feb 2017 19:27:00 GMT

Posted by: an-english-girl.livejournal.com

I think sometime in the last chat I might have promised you all a Romantic!Magus story for Valentines Day?
Not Telling anything, but here you are!
( Click here to remain unenlightened... )

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ot: e-Regency sale

Wed, 04 Nov 2015 11:20:00 GMT

Posted by: filkferengi

from the Bujold list this morning:

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3199047&postcount=1664

Sourcebooks Casablanca is having an 80 Regencies for 80 Hours sale. To
celebrate the release of Heyer's Regency Buck 80 years ago Sourcebooks has
80 Regencies on sale for $1.99 each...

http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=d8636c4f6237114b862679c08&id=ca38fc732b

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ot: Heyer e-book sale?

Tue, 03 Nov 2015 10:55:00 GMT

Posted by: filkferengi

This came from the Heyer list this morning. Since I don't have an e-reader, I can neither confirm nor deny. I hope it's true, so everyone can get in on the fun in more ways.

filkferengi

There are a whole bunch of Heyer ebooks on sale for $1.99 - 80 hour
sale? At B&N, Kobo, Amazon.

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Happy Valentine's Day!

Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:17:00 GMT

Posted by: checkers65477.livejournal.com

Thought you might enjoy this from Harper Collins:

If Famous Writers Sent Valentines

Anyone got any others?

♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

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"What luck you have."

Wed, 29 Jan 2014 17:24:00 GMT

Posted by: mollyringle.livejournal.com

Hello all! Newbie around here. Finished all four books lately, loved them, and am overjoyed there's a community for fellow fans. I'm finally daring to post, but only with the most inconsequential of questions.

I was thinking of the remark "What luck you have" at the time of a certain stolen kiss, and wanted to ask your opinions on its meaning.

When I read it, I assumed it meant, "Well, aren't you lucky, having an army come unexpectedly to rescue you," which it certainly could mean. But lately it occurred to me that it could mean, "I'll take whatever luck a stolen kiss from you could give me, thanks," in the manner of a knight getting a kiss or a flower or such from his lady before going off to combat. Either way, of course our speaker meant it with some irony. :)

But which do you suppose it was?

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rec: a fun novella

Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:35:00 GMT

Posted by: filkferengi

A Bujold listie posted her first story here:

http://archiveofourown.org/works/1049450/chapters/2099148

It's set during Hurricane Sandy, but the leads are fannish, so there're lots of Bujold & Pratchett moments. It's so immediately immersive, I read the whole thing while in the middle of rereading a Jennifer Crusie novel. There're family, friends, loyalty, and a tinge of O. Henry-ish magic. It's in chapters for easy reading, & I recommend it gleefully, acquisitively, & other fun filkferengi things.

:)

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Definitions

Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:09:00 GMT

Posted by: filkferengi

So, a few days ago, a self-appointed gate-keeper named Paul Cook opined that Bujold and other award-winning, acclaimed, and notable authors didn't write *real* science fiction because they dared to include romance elements. Lots of loyal fans & other sensible persons got riled up. Instead of joining the general foofaraw, in typical, classy fashion, Lois McMaster Bujold has re-directed the conversation, starting a great, wide-ranging discussion about science fiction, definitions, young adult literature, & all kinds of cool stuff, here:

http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/4822375-science-fiction-platonic-ideal-or-rorschach-blot

mwt comes in for some love in the comments, from multiple folks.

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Notes from ThiefCon (Summarized in Haste)

Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:28:00 GMT

Posted by: freenarnian.livejournal.com

When I realized how many Sounisians were having technical difficulties, I grabbed a pen and paper and set to work making (imperfect) notes. Here they are!

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QT Valentines

Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:54:00 GMT

Posted by: 1221bookworm.livejournal.com

Happy (Early) Valentines Day to my fellow Sounisians!! :) What do you think our friends on the Peninsula would be up to right now? How would they be preparing and for what?

I would also like to share a love story about our favorite charcters. This is a video I made of booksrgood4u's poem "A Love Like No Other," that I gave to my giftee during the Secret Santa, which I am now sharing with you for Valentine's day:

( A Love Like No Other )

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Who saved whom?

Fri, 09 Dec 2011 08:44:00 GMT

Posted by: booksrgood4u.livejournal.com

It's been awfully slow around here lately! To rectify that situation, I thought I'd post a little discussion question:

In A CoK Helen says: "If he has saved Attolia, then she has saved him as well, and I've told her as much"

I bet we could all come up with a million ways in which Gen has saved Irene, so here's the discussion question:

In what ways do you think Irene has saved Gen?

Alrighty everyone, have at it!

*loves discussion questions*

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Fanart

Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:00:00 GMT

Posted by: thief-alchemist.livejournal.com

After rereading this scene again, and being inspired by rushstarfire's amazing comic, I had to do it...

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Thoughts?

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Attolia shout-out

Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:06:00 GMT

Posted by: checkers65477.livejournal.com

Some interesting comments about the romance in The Queen of Attolia from author Mette Harrison's blog. She has mentioned Megan's books before, too, when discussing romance in books, and great main characters.

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"My Queen"

Wed, 13 Apr 2011 03:50:00 GMT

Posted by: hazelwillow.livejournal.com

Hello everyone,

I just finished re-reading QoA yet again, and I have some random obvservations and a big (okay, big in my mind, probably not so big to y'all!) question. I'm sure these things have been discussed before, but I thought people wouldn't mind visiting QoA again. :)

( click for major tl;dr )

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Happy Valentine's Day!

Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:34:00 GMT

Posted by: velvetrose09.livejournal.com

Happy Valentine's Day, Sounis! Clearly there are quite a few romantics here that need addressing, so I challenge you!

In 6 words (or less) describe...

Gen and Attolia's valentine's day!
Sophos and Helen's valentine's day!
MoW/Gen's Mom's valentine's day!
Costis and Jade? Tiegirl and Teleus? Elle and Stenides?
Checkers and Magus?

Or any non cannon ship you like!

Take your pick! (or the last few can tell US about it! ;-) )

Hope your day is filled with hearts and inkpots!

xoxoxoxoxox

Velvetrose

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De-lurking with a Few Questions...

Sat, 06 Nov 2010 17:31:00 GMT

Posted by: chubbyleng.livejournal.com

Hello everyone!

I’ve been lurking for a while now, and I figured that after my first re-read of The Thief, I would de-lurk myself and… well, properly join the community, I guess? Hehe… Also because I’m feeling a little lonely not having anyone to talk about Queen’s Thief with. None of my friends are interested in reading it.

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Hairpins and Look! I'm Spamming!

Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:44:00 GMT

Posted by: claire-mirkwood.livejournal.com

Sorry for double-posting, but I was reading a (very, very old) chat transcript. And I'm *such* a history nerd. I couldn't help it, I needed to extrapolate on the hairpins thing.
A woman's hair being worn up is, in many a cultures, a sign of marriage. In Chinese history, only a woman's husband was allowed to take down her hair -- in anyone else it would have been incredibly rude. I read somewhere that the same was true in ancient Greece.
Now, because Attolia/Eddis/Sounis is much like Greece, one could hazard a guess that the same rule holds there. So, by removing Irene's hairpins, Gen is telling everyone that he is Irene's husband in truth, not only in name.
However, the question is begged: why don't the Attolians notice?
Perhaps it's only a tradition in Eddis? But then Elia and Phresine notice, and as far as I know, they're both Attolian.
But look! Here's what actually happens:
Gen had returned to the throne and settled onto it looking smug. Phresine, leaving with the queen, heard Elia murmur under her breath, "Well, that was revealing."
"Only to those with eyes to see," murmured Phresine back.
Ornon, standing nearby, silently agreed.
So as far as we know (but only as far as we know), only Gen, Irene, Phresine, Elia and Ornon spot what went on there. The others, we presume, don't have "eyes to see."
If it is a solely Eddisian tradition, than it's obvious why Gen did it and why Ornon spotted it, but not obvious why the queen, Phresine and Elia notice anything more.
So! Let's look at the people who see and check what their relationship to the king and queen is.
Ornon: Gen's cousin and victim of the famous sheep theft. He knows that Gen isn't an idiot or a puppet. He also knows that the king and queen are in love.
Phresine: Queen's oldest attendant. At one point, when the queen and king are in the queen's rooms, it's implied that Phresine knew he was there.
Elia: I'm actually not sure who Elia is...I'm assuming she's an attendant. I don't know about you, but I was pretty sure that the queen's attendants knew perfectly well that there were...ah...alternate routes between the king and queen's respective suites. At least, Iolanthe and Ileia don't seem too shocked in the "I love every one of your ridiculous lies" scene. Which made me blush for Costis' sake.
Anyway. So, here's my final theory: what if the hair-being-taken-down-by-a-husband thing is fairly common, but the court are so wrapped up in wondering how the king can dance with one hand that they don't notice? Also, they probably wouldn't be expecting any signs of romance between Irene and Gen, so they wouldn't be looking for any.
What do you all think?

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It's pollin' time!!

Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:01:00 GMT

Posted by: styromgalleries.livejournal.com

Not around here, though. Over at shipmturns5 (Ship_Manifesto Turns 5). I don't remember seeing a post for this, so I'll just say that you need to head over and vote (if you can) for Gen/Attolia on this week's poll for Hottest 'Ship 2009-2010. I say "if you can" because we are matched against Anne Shirley/Gilbert Blythe from the wonderful Anne of Avonlea series. This is an old school OTP right here...I'm still torn, I'll admit.

But anywhoo! Just head on over to shipmturns5 and be sure to vote for your favorite ship! The poll is open until Friday April 30th. :)

ETA: We are waaaaaaay behind, you guys! But, come on! We can at least make a good showing. Reprobates, unite!

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Love, Love, Love...

Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:56:00 GMT

Posted by: agh-4.livejournal.com

Since tomorrow/today (depending on timezones!) is Valentine's day ... (as well as the 3rd day of A Conspiracy of Socks week -- everyone's been participating, right? )

How about
we
write
Valentine's Day Cards
aka love notes
from character to character!?!?!

Not that they celebrate it, but....

Of course, the possibilites are endless, and can be based on actual book-fact or not!

Have fun, everyone! Go forth and ... yeah.

(and sorry I haven't started off with one that I wrote, but I have to go sleep off my jet lag now, thank you very much. I'll try to comment one tomorrow. I have faith in you all that this can be slightly frightening ... in a good way.)

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Defending Attolia and Eugenides

Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:50:00 GMT

Posted by: lizzyazula.livejournal.com

After I finished reading all three books, I dished them out to all of my close friends and they responded with mostly positive results, except one. My loser of a friend has a problem with the romance between Attolia and Eugenides, and not even the awesomeness of KoA won her over. Her problem is their age difference and the fact that she cut off his hand. Unfortunately, her reaction made me so angry that instead of responding with my usual snarky and witty comeback, all I did was turn red, sputter, hang up the phone and then I proceeded to chuck my phone across my room. Since I cannot come up with anything on my own, I have called out to you guys, the highly esteemed members of Sounis, to help me convince my friend that Attolia and Eugenides' relationship is the best one around. My plan is to scribble your ideas onto note cards, and then the next time I find myself in a position of blushing and sputtering, I can magically pull out the cards and recover myself with snazzy arguments provided by you! I know that one of you posted an essay on how their relationship isn't masochistic, and I plan to go digging for it. It is a very serious situation, as her problems with Attolia and Eugenides damage her enjoyment of the books. I would be much obliged if you would all help me! And my friend, for that matter.

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Fannish Connections

Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:25:00 GMT

Posted by: idiosyncreant.livejournal.com

Well, if you're not already reading Sarah Rees Brennan ( sarahtales ) I really don't have anything to say to you, except Buck Up!

However, this established Thief fan has posted on Best Couples in Books, in her screamingly funny way.

Go, Read, Laugh

And (I don't think any of you will be tempted, but who knows?) don't post whining because she makes fun of it a bit....
The thing about her recaps is they're SO ridiculous, and yet...the Core of Truth. So funny.

I'm sure you'll recognized a lot of the other book couples, too! Her Howl/Sophie recap is likewise chuckle-worthy.

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Because I'm looking for a disctraction from paper writing and studying

Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:22:00 GMT

Posted by: styromgalleries.livejournal.com

So finals are this week and I should be working on a paper right now, but I thought, What the hey? I'll post a random poll to sounis just for the fun of it. I'm a little curious to see if anything interesting will come of this, or if we'll all have the same answers.

So I present to you: The Queen's Thief Top 3 Ships Poll!!!!! Be honest and feel free to explain your answers or elaborate in the comments. And sorry if I left off any. I'm not sure how many crack shippers we have around here, so I wasn't sure whether to start sticking random characters together or not. XD

Let the polling begin!

[Poll #1496067]

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