Maps! (with new and improved clickability!)

[tearoha.livejournal.com]

Hello fellow Sounisians! 

It being my summer holidays, there is always such a lot to do. LIKE: Obsessing over Gen and his world, making notes from books, and drawing maps!!

SO: Here is a map I drew of the countries of Eddis, Attolia, and Sounis, though not in that order.

Oh, and a little bit of Magyar! This was drawn mostly while at the beach, thus the crumples. The one at the top is where ardie_bea splashed me and water got on the paper, although I edited out where the ink ran.



Mostly self-explanatory :) The Gede Valley is where Costis' family lives, although I extrapolated the Gede River. Magyar is a country mentioned on pg. 150 of KoA, bordering Attolia in the North-East. The Eutoas River in Sounis is where Sophos' father has a villa, which Sophos metions at the end of The Thief. I decided that Kathodicia is not actually a province of Attolia, but a separate country, because it was large enough for Gerosthenes to be 'Annux of all Kathodicia'.

I decided that the Seperchia River does NOT have its source in the Hephestial Mountains, since it flows through Sounis AND Attolia, and in The Thief Gen decribes it coming out of mountains on the other side of the Attolian Valley. So, either the Sepechia runs from the other mountains, through Attolia and through the Hephestials in a gorge opened by volvanic/tectonic activity to Sounis, or at some point it runs uphill. You can decide :)

AND, since I was taking so long getting myself organised, pigrescuer sent me a map she drew. PR drew this pre-KoA, which means no Magyar, but otherwise, we have a lot of the same things. Lol, which is good. 
PR also has the routes taken by Gen and co. in The Thief and the soldiers in QoA marked, in shades of red pencil, and complete with a little circle around Ephrata XD



PR? Want to say anything else about your map?

If LJ likes me today, I think clicking on the maps will bring up bigger images.

 Critiques? Corrections? Comments? I like :D


Edited to say: I've re-jigged the pictures. If you click on them they will both now (fingers crossed) take you to a bigger copy, and if you then click again, to a very high-resolution view. Sorry if everyone already knows this, but it's new to me!

Comments

[jezmitt.livejournal.com]

I really like both of these.

PR's map is the way I always imagine the geography until about halfway through QoA, and yours is more like the way I imagine it after that point. So they're both accurate, in my mind. :D

[kulai-raito.livejournal.com]

wish I could click on your map for a bigger version, and look at all the details! PR one works. But I always view the order of the countries PR way. Like both in all, shall encode in memory for a better imagination when I reread again! The maps looks like we doing those class assignments, drawing pictorial view XD!
Good job!

[inkasrain.livejournal.com]

These are seriously beautiful maps! The detail is fantastic! Teahora, yours looks like it could be printed in the book.

It's so cool how you guys can visualize these things; in my head, all three countries are just a big mush!

[reader-marie.livejournal.com]

Ooh! Pretty colors!

I like both of these maps very much--I love to look at maps, but actually visualizing the stuff in books on my own is a bit of a chore. (When I read The Thief, I always end up having to remind myself where they are in relation to the mountains, because otherwise I imagine them escaping from Attolia's megaron out into the middle of nowhere. Sigh.) I think my "order" of the countries is like your map, the post-KOA one, but since I'm pretty unreliable, I'm willing to accept anything.

Thanks for sharing!

(And enjoy summer, huh? It's extremely cold where I am!)

Oh--and did any of you guys know that the Magyar in our own world is the old term for Hungary (well, the old Hungary, which was bigger than the current boundaries)? Just one more evidence of MWT's brilliance in evoking the reality of her countries!

[thelasteddis.livejournal.com]

AARRRRGGGG.
You maps are so good, and my map stinks so bad.
My problem was I didn't find the stuff about Magyar and other countries, which overall lead me to believe the three countries were a continent unto themselves - a small one, albeit, but still seperate. I FAILED. Problem is I've already inked and bound my book of fictional maps - one of which is of E, A, and S.
Crud.
The maps rock!!!

[jesusphreaq.livejournal.com]

Wow!! Those are excellent! I agree, we need a higher resolution copy to see all the details! :D (The second picture shows a bigger one upon clicking, but not the first.) I agree that yours looks like it could be printed in the books themselves as the official version. You should totally get someone to color it on the computer or something. Then I would nominate it to be the official Sounis community map, for everyone surfing the internet to find and be awed at!

[tearoha.livejournal.com]

Hmmm. Yes, I'm not sure what is going on with the clickability thing. Let me have a whack at it...

[tearoha.livejournal.com]

Thanks! I went back in and fiddled with the pictures, so both are now clickable. Mine takes you to a very high-res. map, and I uploaded a clearer version of PR's. Our pretty details are now visible :D

[tearoha.livejournal.com]

aww, thank you :D

[tearoha.livejournal.com]

I have trouble visualising stuff too, which is why I started the map in the first place, especially to help with The Thief. For a visual aid, it got kinda out-of-control, didn't it? :)

Thank you for the nudge - I am enjoying summer, really, I'm just greedy and would like to have all weather at once.

Yes, I did know that about Hungary! Isn't it cool? I think that's still the term used for the modern country by its inhabitants.

Ooh, and in a similar vein, you know Kathodicia, where Phresine comes from? Well, there's a place called Kapudicia (not sure of the spelling) in Turkey, which is famous for its unusual rock formations! Sound familiar? Yup, MWT is awesome.

[tearoha.livejournal.com]

You have an inked and bound book of fictional maps??

*is in awe*

(I think MWT said once, in a discussion about maps a long time ago, that the three countries are on a peninsula. I kinda have that... :P)

[tearoha.livejournal.com]

Got it! It should all be fixed now.

And thank you!

[annikah.livejournal.com]

Oooh, I really like your map tearoha! And that's the order I've always pictured it too, though for some reason I've always pictured the sea being north (which means, I guess, that it's actually PR's order I use? Changing directions can be confusing...). I'm sure there's some mention of the coast being "south" in the books that I've just overlooked.

[dannybailey.livejournal.com]

This is gorgeous! Clearly, a lot of through reading and work must have gone into the creation. Well done!

Perhaps we could link to this or even make a post for it in themegaron? It a community that collects information about the books, encyclopedia style. It's sort of on hiatus at the moment (or less euphemistically, I've been super lazy about updating), but I think this would fit right in with the idea of the community.

[ilonaotus.livejournal.com]

"(I think MWT said once, in a discussion about maps a long time ago, that the three countries are on a peninsula. I kinda have that... :P)"

Are you referring to this (http://community.livejournal.com/sounis/24540.html?thread=447196#t447196)? (Just happened to bump into it when I was going through entires tagged with "maps" tag.)

I relly like your map and all the little details! It looks so professional and like others have said before me, like it could be printed in a book.

I've always pictured the countries in the order of the latter map, but even then they keep shifting and I have to remind myself about things like "no, the river is north of there" or "there are mountains, big mountains," or "we're now in the dystopia, there shouldn't be any trees. Erase the trees" and then I have to turn and twist the image in my head. And I've just been re-reading Thief and QoA, so my mental image of the countries is bound to change again when I start KoA in a couple of days. :D A predefined map would be great, but I also understand MWT's point of not having one.

[kulai-raito.livejournal.com]

Woah more than I ask for! Now its sooo clear!!I can see every single tree,mountain= awesome! Very pretty.wonders does mwt have just a detailed map..now
Geologist yay!

[pigrescuer.livejournal.com]

Lol! Well, since I drew it in 2003, that's what I thought too. ^_^

[pigrescuer.livejournal.com]

^_^

Yours, not mine.

[pigrescuer.livejournal.com]

Wow, TA, yours is gorgeous.

*feels ashamed*

Ah, well, you're six years older than I was.

(this is me making excuses)

It looks like something that should be in Lord of the Rings.

[tearoha.livejournal.com]

Six years older, and had 3 months of free time hanging on my hands. But yours is pretty and colourful AND has the routes, which I was too lazy to work out :)

Thank you! I did try to make it Lord of the Rings-esque, with the red roads and all that :) Oh, and I should probably say that I didn't do it all on my own - ardie_bea, he who splashes maps-in-progress, showed me how to do the mountains.

[tearoha.livejournal.com]

Thanks, dannybailey!
I've been to themegaron before, and that's fine with me! Actually, I was wondering if I should message you and ask to put it on :) So, if you want to post it that's great :) Or I can do it if you want. Maybe Sounis could start a map collection.

[tearoha.livejournal.com]

yes, that's the one! I remember now. See, I'm just too lazy to go and look up everything that was ever said on maps. Again.

Yes, I can see MWT point too, and I think she's right... but I still want one :D

[tearoha.livejournal.com]

Uh... South... *scrambles for notes*
K. Well Eddis is to the North and NE of Sounis. Attolia is open to winds that come from the East and dump rain when they hit the mountains. Gen and company leave Sounis City through the North gate, so I assume they travel North-ish, at which point the Seperchia is at their right. I don't think I ever found a specific mention of a Southerly coast, but S-SE seems about right to me.

[annikah.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that does sound right. I'll have to pay more attention next time. :) Thanks!

[kitsune-rains.livejournal.com]

Wow. This is amazing. I am in awe of your awesome cartography skills. This is pretty much exactly what I pictured the countries to be like. Except for the islands, but those make sense now that I think of it. Thank you so much!