You know, I have a confession to make. I actually thought while reading the Theif that Gen would end up with Eddis. *ducks rotten tomatoes* lol. So I read the QOA the first time thinking that would happen. When Eddis declares war in Gen's name (even though she said she wouldn't start a war to avenge him, or something like that)I think he felt a little guilty, that his failure would now lead to the loss of life of so many soldiers. (remember the part where he went to visit the soildiers, and his aversion for bloodshed?) Also, I thought that it was interesting that throughotut Gen's entire recovery he was completely devoid of any hatred for Attolia; it was almost like Eddis was taking the hatred that Gen was susposed to be feeling for Attolia, leaving Gen with feelings of heartbreak and 'lost love'(in hindsight)
*grins* I can't remember my impressions from the first time I read the books, because that was so long ago, and I wasn't really registering at the time. But I'd probably have felt the same, I think their older sister/younger brother relationship doesn't really become clear until QoA, though Gen does state the nature the nature of their relationship at the end of the Thief.
I'd agree with your views on Gen's relationship with the Eddisians and Eddis. I think he loves the people of Eddis in a way, or feels a duty to them, and that's why after his pep talk from Helen in the QoA, he was more accepting about the fact that he was a symbol for the wounded men, and that he had helped them. I'm pretty sure he doesn't feel worthy of his heroic status though. :)
Does it change his relationship with Eddis; well, thats tough.I guess they were almost like older sister/younger brother, and after the events in QOA, she realized that Gen was also vunerable, and she felt she needed to protect him.
I've just had a thought reading that. D'you suppose that in some ways, Helen's almost a surrogate for his mother? Not entirely, she couldn't be, but though Gen claimed at the end of The Thief to be 'fond' of her and nothing more, I think there's a deeper attachment. *shrugs* There's an incredible amount of loyalty to her in Gen, and vice versa, though that could just be the fact that they're close friends. And Gen's stubborness. Hmm...
Rambling again. :) *stops*
After she found out that Gen loved Attolia (by the way, what exact part in QOA DID Eddis find out that Gen loved Attolia? It never says, or I can't find it)she, despite knowing him better than everyone else in Eddis, was horrified, and jealous, because it meant he would leave her, and join Attolia.
Yes! You're exactly right I think. I think in this sense Helen's just like Meredite, not jealous in the way she would be of a lover, but jealous in the way that a mother is of her daughter in law. It's the fact that she won't be the most important woman in his life any more. But then again, Helen was lovely enough to put that aside for Gen's happiness.
In KOA, I think that the Gen/Eddis relationship would be one of the minor conflicts to resolve, because I 'm having a hard time seeing how Gen will be able to be loyal to BOTH queens without some problems; kind of like a man who has to deal with problems arising between his mother and new wife, lol.
Yes, that's exactly the problem that I'm seeing. I really want to see Gen visiting Eddis as the King of Attolia. I mean, the Eddisians will probably see him differently too.
What will the people of Eddis think of their hero becoming King of Attolia? Perhaps they'll blame Irene again. What do you guys think?
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Date: 1/9/06 05:08 pm (UTC)*grins* I can't remember my impressions from the first time I read the books, because that was so long ago, and I wasn't really registering at the time. But I'd probably have felt the same, I think their older sister/younger brother relationship doesn't really become clear until QoA, though Gen does state the nature the nature of their relationship at the end of the Thief.
I'd agree with your views on Gen's relationship with the Eddisians and Eddis. I think he loves the people of Eddis in a way, or feels a duty to them, and that's why after his pep talk from Helen in the QoA, he was more accepting about the fact that he was a symbol for the wounded men, and that he had helped them. I'm pretty sure he doesn't feel worthy of his heroic status though. :)
Does it change his relationship with Eddis; well, thats tough.I guess they were almost like older sister/younger brother, and after the events in QOA, she realized that Gen was also vunerable, and she felt she needed to protect him.
I've just had a thought reading that. D'you suppose that in some ways, Helen's almost a surrogate for his mother? Not entirely, she couldn't be, but though Gen claimed at the end of The Thief to be 'fond' of her and nothing more, I think there's a deeper attachment. *shrugs* There's an incredible amount of loyalty to her in Gen, and vice versa, though that could just be the fact that they're close friends. And Gen's stubborness. Hmm...
Rambling again. :) *stops*
After she found out that Gen loved Attolia (by the way, what exact part in QOA DID Eddis find out that Gen loved Attolia? It never says, or I can't find it)she, despite knowing him better than everyone else in Eddis, was horrified, and jealous, because it meant he would leave her, and join Attolia.
Yes! You're exactly right I think. I think in this sense Helen's just like Meredite, not jealous in the way she would be of a lover, but jealous in the way that a mother is of her daughter in law. It's the fact that she won't be the most important woman in his life any more. But then again, Helen was lovely enough to put that aside for Gen's happiness.
In KOA, I think that the Gen/Eddis relationship would be one of the minor conflicts to resolve, because I 'm having a hard time seeing how Gen will be able to be loyal to BOTH queens without some problems; kind of like a man who has to deal with problems arising between his mother and new wife, lol.
Yes, that's exactly the problem that I'm seeing. I really want to see Gen visiting Eddis as the King of Attolia. I mean, the Eddisians will probably see him differently too.
What will the people of Eddis think of their hero becoming King of Attolia? Perhaps they'll blame Irene again. What do you guys think?