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queensthiefHi everybody!
I can’t express how happy I am to find this community. I read Queen of Attolia years ago. Recently I heard the word “Attolia” on the subway, and remembered the lovely book I had read. As soon as I went home, I searched for it on the net, and there it was. I quickly reread the Queen of Attolia and then went in search of King of Attolia. Not a single Barnes and nobles in New York City had King of Attolia. I dearly wanted to break some amphoras until I found a copy in my local library. Of course, I devoured it. I am even forcing my sister to read the series. I have been lurking and reading all the amazing posts for a couple of days now. I had a few questions and I knew that everybody here will be able to answer them. They might seem a bit tedious and obvious, but please bear with me.
1. Gen loses his temper and hits poor Costis on the head. Does he lose his temper because he heard them humming the song, “The King’s Wedding Night?”
2. Speaking of that song, I really wonder what exactly did it say?
3. Sejanus says, “Sand in your sheets is such an aggravation, especially when that’s all in your bed.” What does he mean?
4. How did Irene know that Gen looked towards Eddis when he was alone? Was it just intuition?
5. Gen says, “It’s true the queen would never have you, but we could both be assassinated, and you could be captain to my heir. Don’t give up hope just because chances are slim.” Costis asks, “For the assassination or the heir, Your Majesty.” Gen says, “Why would I worry at all about assassination when I have such a stout guard to defend me?” Is he just being sarcastic or does he want Costis to think that the chances of an heir are slim.”
Thanks!
I can’t express how happy I am to find this community. I read Queen of Attolia years ago. Recently I heard the word “Attolia” on the subway, and remembered the lovely book I had read. As soon as I went home, I searched for it on the net, and there it was. I quickly reread the Queen of Attolia and then went in search of King of Attolia. Not a single Barnes and nobles in New York City had King of Attolia. I dearly wanted to break some amphoras until I found a copy in my local library. Of course, I devoured it. I am even forcing my sister to read the series. I have been lurking and reading all the amazing posts for a couple of days now. I had a few questions and I knew that everybody here will be able to answer them. They might seem a bit tedious and obvious, but please bear with me.
1. Gen loses his temper and hits poor Costis on the head. Does he lose his temper because he heard them humming the song, “The King’s Wedding Night?”
2. Speaking of that song, I really wonder what exactly did it say?
3. Sejanus says, “Sand in your sheets is such an aggravation, especially when that’s all in your bed.” What does he mean?
4. How did Irene know that Gen looked towards Eddis when he was alone? Was it just intuition?
5. Gen says, “It’s true the queen would never have you, but we could both be assassinated, and you could be captain to my heir. Don’t give up hope just because chances are slim.” Costis asks, “For the assassination or the heir, Your Majesty.” Gen says, “Why would I worry at all about assassination when I have such a stout guard to defend me?” Is he just being sarcastic or does he want Costis to think that the chances of an heir are slim.”
Thanks!
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Date: 1/2/09 10:16 pm (UTC)#5) Gen wants Costis to think the chances of an heir are slim.
:-)
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Date: 1/2/09 10:46 pm (UTC)2. We can only wonder. :P
3. He's implying that the King and Queen aren't, ahem... intimate.
4. Would you know, I can't recall...
5. I think he's just being sarcastic, although since other people were probably listening in, I'd say it's likely he'd want them to think the chances of an heir were slim. Whether he'd want Costis to think that, at that point, I'm not sure.
Oh yeah, and welcome to the community! :D
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Date: 1/3/09 01:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 1/2/09 11:14 pm (UTC)About "The Wedding Night" song--it's pretty obvious from the way it's treated that it's a ballad about Gen trying to have his way with Irene, probably to much humiliating failure. They think Irene would have nothing to do with him, and poor Dite is in love with her and would hate to think Gen consummated the marriage against her will.
Looking out the window--she knows where his quarters are. (After all, it's pretty obvious he gets easily between them, probably out the same window. She knows which way his windows face. It becomes obvious to everyone who sees the view, so the Eddisian mountains are probably the main thing visible in that direction--and maybe the pass, too.
About 5) I think it's both. Gen is sly that way. He can be sarcastic and misleading at the same time, which may be his most significant talent. ^-^
Welcome!
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Date: 1/3/09 04:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 1/2/09 11:15 pm (UTC)1. That's what I thought--Gen was angry because of Dite's stupid song and was fed up with everyone laughing at him. His mind was wandering and he was forgetting to act like he didn't know how to use a sword. Plus, Costis was sighing at him; in contempt, it says. What I've wondered is why, immediately after, he is suddenly smiling pleasantly. Anyone?
2. *snerk* Maybe we need to have a song-writing contest?
3. Ahem, yes. No Queen. Just sand.
4. No idea. I've wondered that, too.
5. You know, I never thought those comments had anything to do with Gen not wanting people thinking about an heir. I thought Gen just got a kick out of Costis's clever, ill-advised comment (remember how he enjoys verbal sparring) and was reminded that he really does like Costis the Honorable and he just hit him in the head with a sword. But I could entirely wrong, and it was just sarcasm. Gen enjoys that, too.
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Date: 1/3/09 10:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 1/3/09 10:36 am (UTC)^_^ This could work...
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Date: 1/4/09 06:17 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 1/2/09 11:34 pm (UTC)3. If sand's the only thing in Gen's bed, the queen's refusing to sleep with him. :o
5. I agree with the above stuff, but it's also important to remember that Costis was completely out-of-line in saying that. I like to think his candor surprised even Gen, and that's why he answers with another question, to deflect Costis a little. And probably for the sarcasm, too.
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Date: 1/3/09 12:11 am (UTC)(Alright Checkers, remember. The one in the CENTER is the assimalation button (see kac's intro post for an explanation for the maddness))
1) Probably a little bit... I can see Gen getting fed up, for just a second, of everyone hating him, and just wanting to show someone what-for.
2) *snorts* I can't even imagine... course, I'm fifteen, so I don't have a lot of source material...
3) Heh heh. What everyone else said - sand, but no Irene. Little do they know...
4) I suspect she knows he's homesick, and there's the whole thing about what way the window is facing. I bet she knows he has another motive for wanting to stay in that part of the palace.
5) I always read it as meaning that the assasination was unlikely, but looking back he probably meant it in two ways. It's all mixed up.
I second Anacred's question. 'Cause you need to read Thief. I read QoA first, as well, but as soon as I realized it was a sequel I had to go find the first. Thief clarified a lot for me, as in I spend half of QoA asking myself, 'who the #^&$'s the Magus?'. And the Magus rocks. Hard.
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Date: 1/3/09 01:14 am (UTC)*writes this all down*
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Date: 1/3/09 01:02 am (UTC)Obviously I need to go and read the Thief. As soon as I am finished with the heart-wrenching book that is Tess of d'Urberville by Hardy, I am going to read the Thief.
Is it as good as the QoA and KoA?
2010 can't come soon enough!
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Date: 1/3/09 02:10 am (UTC)GO FIND THIEF AND READ IT NOW.
AS IN NOW.
LEAVE THE OTHER BOOK FOR LATER.
IT'S NOT AS IMPORTANT.
SERIOUSLY.
Now I'm done with caps.
Yes, The Thief is wonderful. It will be a little weird if you've already read the other two, but you'll get through. And afterwards everything, and everyone, makes more sense. I know I was much quicker to believe Gen/Irene, since I hadn't seen her in full demon-from-hell mode, and far less quick to accept that there might (possibly - I'm still Helen/Sophos) be a Helen/Magus. Cause there's no explanation as to who the #%% he is in the second two.
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Date: 1/4/09 10:13 pm (UTC)Thief is one of the best books in the ENTIRE WORLD.
The problem for me was, I took stuff Gen said at face value. I kept being confused as to why suddenly he was from Sounis. *facepalms*
But now I get it.
*adores Thief*
*adores the thief*
*adores Gen*
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Date: 1/3/09 10:38 am (UTC)GO READ
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Date: 1/3/09 09:07 am (UTC)2. I wonder if MWT ever wrote it...
3. Yes, what everyone else said :)
4. Like Gen, Irene survives by being able to read/manipulate people. She knows that Gen hates it in Attolia,and I don't think it took her long to guess.
5. I thought Gen was honestly surprised to hear stolid Costis banter back like that - even pleasatly surprised. And that he was teasing Costis with that remark about being such a stout guard - seeing as Costis had just been hit by a stroke in prime.
Welcome to Sounis!
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Date: 1/3/09 10:42 am (UTC)2. ^_^
3. People have already said - no Queen
4. I think partly intuition (they're both very good at reading people) and partly knowing which way his room faced and that he did sit in his room all alone.
5. I think... both. Our Gen is pretty sarcastic, and he's also trying to pretend he's not likely to have an heir.
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Date: 1/3/09 01:53 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 1/4/09 12:58 am (UTC)In flawless classic pentameter, remember XD
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Date: 1/5/09 03:49 am (UTC)But it's canon :)
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Date: 1/4/09 02:35 am (UTC)WHAT?!?!?! YOU HAVEN'T READ THE THIEF?!?!?! THAT'S AWFUL! YOU CAN'T, JUST CAN'T NOT READ THE THIEF!!! *breathing deeply in attempt to calm self* Okay, just go and read the thief. good. :)
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Date: 1/4/09 02:39 pm (UTC)(and can we please not restrict it to one meter? *pleady face*)
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