[identity profile] idiosyncreant.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] queensthief
Okay, it's not a stretch to think of all sorts of book-discussion topics based on this snippet.

While I can open the floor to other connections to bathing Magus' let's start with the two obvious constructions of this:


The Magus has a Bath, in which he is revealed at last, or something is. (i.e. the fansquee option)

What moments of fan-service, or anticipated developments really made you love an author?
Any that you're still waiting for?



The Magus' bath is a tease, and it will not be steamy, except in a very literal way. He may even just get dunked in a river. (Or the sea by the Mede Empire.)

Any bait-and-switch moments in books that made you angry?
Or made the story better?


I mean. Aside from the obvious plenty contained in the Queen's Thief books...

Date: 2/7/09 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reader-marie.livejournal.com
Ooh, it's my first While She Knits! I love book discussion...

I've actually just finished Artemis Fowl: The Time Paradox, which is full of plot twists and, as aforementioned, curiosity-raising. Lots of fun, though; it wouldn't be trademark Colfer if I could predict the ending.

My next most recent read was The Empty Kingdom by Elizabeth E. Wein, which has its own set of crazy developments. In case people do not know the awesomeness of this book, I shall refrain from any blatant spoiling, but I was trying to guess all the way through what Telemakos' family was trying to tell him, and I was still wrong...it was wonderful. Usually when I'm predicting plots I love to be wrong because generally the reality is much better than anything I could have come up with.

Forgive the rambling...that's all I can think of at the moment, except for the obvious plenty.

Date: 2/7/09 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philia-fan.livejournal.com
Agreed. I liked the way The Empty Kingdom started connecting back to themes from The Winter Prince, too.

Date: 2/7/09 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pigrescuer.livejournal.com
Humph! I've been trying to track down Elizabeth Wein books in the librrary and they don't seem to have any!

Should I buy?

Date: 2/7/09 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
If I had money, I'd own them all already.

Date: 2/7/09 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
The Empty Kingdom is Made of Awesome. Actually, all of E Wein;s books are. At the end of Empty Kingdom I was going "WHAT?!?!?! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!? AWESOME.

Date: 2/7/09 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
Things that made me love authors?

Well, MWT, because she wrote KoA. And Thief and QoA. And she comments 'round here and shows up in Chatzy on special occasions.

Elizabeth Wein is Made Of Awesome because she commented on my blog (http://rosaleeluann.livejournal.com/67552.html?nc=5). She said I made her day. Which made my day/week/month/year. :-D

Shannon Hale is cool because she actually read a comment I made on one of her blog entries, followed the link I gave her, and did a follow-up post (http://oinks.squeetus.com/2008/08/straining-for-t.html) on it.

Robin McKinley is cool because she replied to a few comments I made on her blog.

Sherwood Smith is cool for the same reason.




So basically, authors are cool when, not only do they write awesome books, they reveal that they aren't the high and mighty distant people they seem to be, and they interact with me, albeit briefly, on a somewhat personal level, as if things I say are actually legitimate to them, my heroes and role models.

Date: 2/7/09 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philia-fan.livejournal.com
Ooh, Shannon Hale did that with me, too!

Date: 2/7/09 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
SO now I read this after a full night of sleep and I'm going, "Whoa, my brain totally took that off on a tangent..."

I like tangents.

Date: 2/7/09 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
ARTEMIS HOLLY DID SOMEBODY SAY--oh, they already did. Well. We'll just leave that there, shall we.

Moments I'm still waiting for...there probably are some, but I forget. In fact, I cannot think of answers to any of these--

WHEN J.K. ROWLING DID THE RON/HERMIONE KISS. There are no words to express how excited I was. Like, background:

I shipped Ron/Hermione from, like, halfway through CoS, which was the first HP I ever read, and then I spent the hiatus between GoF and OotP reading just about every Ron/Hermione fanfic on the Sugarquill site. And there were so many good ones, so many NOT from Harry's POV, that I was utterly convinced (when I was fourteen) that there was NO WAY JKR could pull it off.

(hahaha, I love the number of acronyms in this story.)

so, granted, I was older when DH came out, but I was still a little nervous about how she was going to do it--

and then and then and then

IT WAS PERFECT.

and while I already loved JKR, that pretty much cemented it. Because It Was Perfect.

angry bait-and-switches that made me angry? Mildmay's obligation d'ame. Maybe not a bait-and-switch, but it felt like one when I first read it.

SNAP!

Date: 2/7/09 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearoha.livejournal.com
Another Quiller?? Snap, Jade!

I spent the hiatus between GoF and OotP reading just about every Ron/Hermione fanfic on the Sugarquill site.

That's pretty much exactly the same thing as I did. Same time, same place. I started with a link to Arabella's stories and didn't look back :)

SQ people are starting to turn up everywhere! YAY!

And I agree. It was perfectly perfect perfection.

Re: SNAP!

Date: 2/7/09 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
OMG ME TOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I got linked to Fanfiction.net and discovered HQoW and from there went to SugarQuill and--HECK YES. I wrote awful awful fanfic and dreamed of getting accepted and betaed by my idols and devoured "After the End" and was SO TICKED OFF it got jossed because JKR killed Sirius and--YES.

:-D *high-fives*

*babbles at length about SugarQuill*

Date: 2/7/09 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearoha.livejournal.com
AAAIIIEEE YES. I found it by - gah I had such a long complicated finding SQ story - from a link from a fanart. From Marta T's fanarts (which are brilliant and pop up in icons all over the place) I got linked thru to *riffles through tabs* Dare by Arabella and B. Bennett. AAArgh yes I loved HQoW I read them all and was sooooo disappointed when they stopped! Did you ever read Alchemilla's? It was my FAVOURITE FAVOURITE (after all the other favourites) and it was SOOO badly canonballed, I was so mad. And I broke my brain on the SQ87 riddle, did you ever find that? YES and I too wrote bad bad fanfic about Hermione's first year, just like everyone else in the fanverse XD
*FLYING HIGH 5!*

(and I love that icon, btw)

Re: *babbles at length about SugarQuill*

Date: 2/8/09 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] traboule.livejournal.com
Ooooh, me too! I'm so glad I'm not the only person who'll admit to spending all their free time on SQ in between books.

And I totally got into Harry Potter fanfic because of Marta's art as well. Her drawings are basically what the characters look like in my head, especially her amazingly pretty Sirius.

Re: *babbles at length about SugarQuill*

Date: 2/8/09 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearoha.livejournal.com
"I'm not the only person who'll admit to spending all their free time on SQ in between books."

No, that's me too! SQ was pretty much my main reading fodder for a whole year, because where I lived at the time it was very hard to get English books. So SQ came to the rescue with all their lovely HP goodness :)
My vision of the HP character's is pretty much based on marta's stuff too - especially her Ron.

Re: *babbles at length about SugarQuill*

Date: 2/8/09 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inkasrain.livejournal.com
Marta-- is this the Marta from artdungeon.net? She's amazing.

Re: *babbles at length about SugarQuill*

Date: 2/8/09 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearoha.livejournal.com
Yes that's her! Aren't they awesome? :-D

Re: *babbles at length about SugarQuill*

Date: 2/8/09 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
it's not so much "admitting" as it is "blatant statement of unavoidable fact." I remember that first summer so well, where I used to get online, load ALL the chapters of a story, and then get offline (woo dialup) and just sit there reading...rather than babysitting my sisters. \o/

Re: *babbles at length about SugarQuill*

Date: 2/8/09 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
Alchemilla's? That one I don't know...I was obsessed with Arabella and with B and "After the End" was the one I followed the most...and "Memories of Tomorrow, Dreams of Yesterday" by Jedi Boadecia...and no, I never did find 87! But I still reference in my head. AND THE VERY SECRET DIARY GAVE ME THE CREEPS FOR MONTHS.

*ATTEMPTS FLYING HIGH 5 AND CRASHES INTO YOU* OOPS MY BAD.

(hahaha potterpuffs are win.)

*PICKS SELF UP OFF FLOOR*

Date: 2/8/09 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearoha.livejournal.com
Obsessed with Arabella and B, you say? Hmmm... did you ever find THIS?

http://community.livejournal.com/sq_sticklebats/5524.html

I re-read this comm when I went to find the link and almost had a heart attack. There are three parts to the diaries, scroll forwards to find them.

*POINTS* FOLLOW LINK!

XDDDDD

Re: *PICKS SELF UP OFF FLOOR*

Date: 2/8/09 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
YES. OMG I REMEMBER THAT BUT REREADING IT WAS SO EXCELLENT :-D:-D:-D

Re: *PICKS SELF UP OFF FLOOR*

Date: 2/8/09 08:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearoha.livejournal.com
YAY SQ PEOPLE, CRACK GENERATOR EXTRAORDINAIRES.
Second only to Sounisians, of course :)

Re: SNAP!

Date: 2/7/09 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelasteddis.livejournal.com
ICON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: 2/9/09 11:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lilian-cho.livejournal.com
angry bait-and-switches that made me angry? Mildmay's obligation d'ame. Maybe not a bait-and-switch, but it felt like one when I first read it.

Bait and switch how? (It's been a while since I read it.

Date: 2/10/09 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
Well, more like, how it happened at all. I mean, I don't remember it well either, but I remember being SO ANGRY about it. It seemed like there should have been other options that just...weren't examined. It's my one complaint with Monette's writing, because I feel like it's happened more than once.

Date: 2/7/09 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
*just thought of one*

But maybe I shouldn't mention it because the book's not out yet. Hmm.

Well, I'll keep it basically spoiler-free.

I guessed the surprise ending of The Demons Lexicon. But that's mostly because I'm one of those people who will read the last sentence when in a very scary moment of the book, just to reassure myself that it will all end up OK. (The good thing about last sentences is that they usually do confirm the happy ending while they happen after the BIG REVEAL, so they usually don't give away all that much.) The part I was at in the book happened to be a kind of clue, and the last sentence had a sort of clue, so reading them in conjunction... well, I probably wouldn't have guessed otherwise. But it was still awesome. It made me love mistful (thats still her name in my head) because of... well, her chosen PoV character, and having the right clues and... yeah.

Date: 2/7/09 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The last 2/3 of The Queen of Attolia, actually.

I've just finished Galapagos...wow. Way to drop semi-spoilery hints all through the story without actually ruining it, Vonnegut. Way to go!

~Feir Dearig

Date: 2/7/09 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
also, I'm not terribly interested in seeing the Magus nekkid. I think he has much dignity and would be embarrassed--either that, or he will be like Churchill, and carry on with perfect aplomb (or is would that be Gen)?

~Feir *ducks and runs*

Date: 2/10/09 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitsune-rains.livejournal.com
I can't think of any fanservice-y moments at the... moment... But the climax of Water for Elephants was practically the definition of bait-and-switch and made the story so much better.
Loved it!
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