[identity profile] peggy-2.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] queensthief
The While She Knits book recs seem to be a big hit with other Sounis folks, and are often endorsed by other members of the community.  What is it that makes you recommend a book to Sounis?  Are there books that you really like that you WOULDN'T recommend to the WSKers?

Date: 10/9/09 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
I recommend books with engaging characters and a good plot and good writing. Or at least I think they are that way. Sometimes I recommend books that are less on plot and more philosophical--not in a technical sense, but in a worldview/life sense.

...mm, I'm trying to think of what my guilty pleasure books are--but I tend to stick to fanfic for that, so I think I'm "safe." XD

Date: 10/9/09 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emerald-happy.livejournal.com
but I tend to stick to fanfic for that, so I think I'm "safe." XD

Oh me too.

I recommend a book to sounis when it's become an obsession and I really, really love it. Usually it has been recommended to me by sounis but that still won't make me shut up about it. XD

Date: 10/10/09 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluestalking.livejournal.com
...I rec all the fic I read, too. NO GUILT. NO GUILT.

Date: 10/9/09 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
You mean GOOD books that I wouldn't recommend to Sounisians? Why would I deprive you all of the awesomeness of a good book? Seriously, WSK is the place for giving and getting good book recs. Hold nothing back! Tell us what you're reading, and what you think of it! As long as people, like, actually say something about the book they're recommending (and especially if other peoples chime in with their opinions) I generally can decide whether I think the book is worth a try. I don't think I will necessarily like anything and everything that is recommended here, but just because not everyone will agree with you is no reason to hold back your opinion.

Date: 10/9/09 07:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosalui.livejournal.com
Sorry, but Sword and the Crown by Patricia McKinley. It was horridly depressing at some points. :(

Also, "Wizard's Hall" by Jane Yolen.

Date: 10/9/09 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zumie-ashlen.livejournal.com
Do you mean the Hero and the Crown by Robin McKinley? I couldn't find the one you mentioned. (and if you did mean that one, then yes, I heartily agree)

Date: 10/9/09 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosalui.livejournal.com
YES THAT ONE.

Date: 10/9/09 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viviolo.livejournal.com
OOPS, I recommend that all the time. Maybe I should add a disclaimer.

Date: 10/9/09 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philia-fan.livejournal.com
I think I'd put that down to personal tastes being different.

Date: 10/9/09 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viviolo.livejournal.com
Oh yes, but generally speaking, I've gotten enough backlash from people over the years who berate me for having them reading a book with "sad" ending, that I try to keep track nowadays, to give them some warning. :)

Date: 10/9/09 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
oh Robin McKinley and her love of problematic not-quite-happily-ever-afters.

on the reverse, I have friends who refuse to read things if they know they'll end sadly, so I try not to warn them at all. XD

Date: 10/9/09 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
I don't really think of tHatC as having a sad ending. Or, really, any of Robin McKinley's books. I rather like her endings, though all her climaxes tend to.... well, they all have this same sort of kinda weird drama/magic that I can only describe as McKinleyish. (*description skills FAIL*)
But then, maybe I'm just not as sensitive to the "not quite" part of the "happily ever after"? But I guess this does make sense--I've found that my very most favorite endings are often the bitter-sweet ones (though I'll take a Happily Ever After over AND THEN EVERYBODY DIES AND LIFE SUCKS ending any day.)

Date: 10/9/09 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
ditto this! I love bittersweet endings. And I totally agree about the intricate drama/character/magic implosion (not implosion, um...fusion!) that characterizes her climaxes.

but I always felt really, really bad for Tor in the end of the book.

Date: 10/10/09 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluestalking.livejournal.com
ME TOO.

Also, yeah, I am always kind of unsettled by Robin McKinley's books, but it would never occur to me to say "OH MAN, WATCH OUT THOUGH, THIS IS DEPRESSING."

I give warnings for Sarah Monette, though, in between the gushing. XD

Date: 10/10/09 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosalui.livejournal.com
It wasn't so much the ending, but more all that she spend burnt and lying about in agony. I just... couldn't see the point. :/

Date: 10/10/09 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluestalking.livejournal.com
YES THAT. It was really unsettling. It's been a long time since I've read it, though, so I don't know how I'd feel now.

Date: 10/9/09 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zumie-ashlen.livejournal.com
I do like it! It's just... um. It makes me furious in one facet. But I'm glad I read it and everything, I just file my own headcanon. :D

Date: 10/9/09 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
Yay for headcanon! I do that sometimes too.

Date: 10/9/09 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zumie-ashlen.livejournal.com
she goes back to you-know-who and lives happily ever after THE END.

I mean, I do like endings that don't sugarcoat. I like a little lack of resolution. But that book just made me feel horrible for the main character. :(

Date: 10/10/09 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
I feel worse for that-other-one, because [highlight for spoilers]

Date: 10/11/09 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zumie-ashlen.livejournal.com
Oh, I feel bad for you-know-who too. He was a woobie.

I love her other books, that one was just very emotionally wrenching for me.

(Katarra icon!!! Darnit where are my Avatar icons)
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Date: 10/10/09 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosalui.livejournal.com
It just struck me as so stiff. :/ It's a matter of personal taste, but I just couldn't... find the magic in it?

...Gosh, that sounded cheesy. D:

Date: 10/10/09 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluestalking.livejournal.com
*is not a big Jane Yolen fan*

Well no. I like her picture books, her bedtime books, and her short stories. Don't really like her novels, though.

Date: 10/9/09 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philia-fan.livejournal.com
I don't usually recommend Nabokov here, though he is one of my favorite writers, because I did once, and there was a backlash. Nor have I ever recommended Willa Cather here, whom I adore, because it's just never come up in the conversation. I hesitate to recommend some of my more oddball favorites, like Independent People and Under the Glacier (Halldor Laxness), or John Brown's Body (Stephen Vincent Benet). And I don't usually recommend recent books by people in my critique group, even though I think they're really good, because they aren't fantasy and I'm not sure this is their audience.

Date: 10/10/09 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluestalking.livejournal.com
On the other hand, I really loved No Cream Puffs. SO WHO KNOWS?

Date: 10/10/09 01:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 10/9/09 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viviolo.livejournal.com
I'll pretty much recommend any book I enjoy. As someone up above said, as long as you include a description, or go into some detail about what in particular you liked about it, I think people will generally be able to discern if it's something they'd be interested in.

I don't think there's any point in holding back on what you like, whether the story is "fluffy", or not in the "right" genre. Everyone has varying tastes (hey, I can't be the only person whose literary range spans from Meg Cabot to Kafka, okay).

If just ONE person finds a new book to love, then the recommendation has served its purpose, I think.

Date: 10/9/09 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zumie-ashlen.livejournal.com
I don't think Meg Cabot is extreme enough to show how utterly brainless some of your guilty pleasures can be. *coughBoysOverFlowerscough*

"Hemingyay!"

Date: 10/10/09 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluestalking.livejournal.com
Dude, I just--okay I was going to make a point about how I have to review this book in the HOUSE OF NIGHT series by P.C. Cast and Kristin Cast and it is awful but I enjoyed it so so so much because it is awful, and then I got totally distracted because KURT.

MY LOVE.

SO STRONG.

Date: 10/10/09 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zumie-ashlen.livejournal.com
Oh, everyone has guilty pleasures, don't worry! I find myself reading Yugioh (the comics. Yes) whilst eating candy and giggling like a maniacal child.

I read it for the bad Egyptian mythology and psychopathic characters darnit

Date: 10/10/09 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosalui.livejournal.com
I like Meg Cabot. XD (Once she started adding all this stuff about how her characters ZOMG NEEDED TO HAVE SEX even though they were fifteen, I got annoyed, though.) She's not exactly great literature, but there's something quite fun about her plots....

Date: 10/10/09 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viviolo.livejournal.com
She IS great fun! :D I tend to like her paranormal stuff the best.

You wouldn't be referring to the Princess Diaries, would you? XD I got really annoyed with that whole situation too, especially since it felt like there was a lot of pressure about it coming from Michael's end.

Conversely, I LOVED how she handled the subject of teen sex in the second All-American Girl book.

Date: 10/10/09 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosalui.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'd had a lot of respect for Michael up until that point, and then it was just, "Dude, she's fifteen. Cool it."

But I loved 1-800-Where-r-u? Did she ever finish that? Did we ever find out why whatsisname is on parole?

Date: 10/10/09 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viviolo.livejournal.com
Oh, how Michael made me rage when I read that book.

She did finish 1-800-Where-R-U! The last book is called Missing You, and she wrote it under Meg Cabot (as opposed to her previous pen name, Jenny Carroll). And yes, you do find out why Rob was on parole. :)

Date: 10/10/09 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lily7000.livejournal.com
I think I lurk too much to recommend :(
BUT I wanted to take the time to thank everyone heartily for all their recommendations! I read a lot of the stuff I find recommended here. People just have such good taste! and, since I have three siblings with similar reading taste, plus some avid reader friends, I pass on your recommendations too! For instance, the Hunger Games just finished circulating through my family.

So here's a giant THANK YOU from the resident lurker.

Or maybe I shouldn't say thank you. The only manga I've ever read, Fullmetal Alchemist, I'm pretty sure I read on a rec from Sounis. It's amazing, but what happened in the latest chapter is driving me to distraction...

Date: 10/10/09 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viviolo.livejournal.com
Don't be afraid to comment/post! We will not bite. :)

Chapter 100? Oh, how I feel you. DDDDD:

Date: 10/11/09 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lily7000.livejournal.com
Aww thanks! I know you guys are awesome, I just have bad lurking habits.

and yeah, still can't get that... stuff that happened... off my mind. Hope everything manages to turn out all right!

Date: 10/24/09 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seachild930.livejournal.com
I KNOW I KNOW CHAPTER 100
*weeping*

:(

Good, I would recommend FMA too, since it pleases me so utterly and so endlessly.

Date: 10/11/09 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zumie-ashlen.livejournal.com
Was it me? I have a feeling I recced it here to someone. Sorry! :D

Date: 10/12/09 03:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lily7000.livejournal.com
Can't remember, but if it was here's an extra thank you :) !! seriously, no sarcasm, despite 100, I still adore FMA.

Date: 10/11/09 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearoha.livejournal.com
I like to tailor my book reccs to the person I'm speaking to, but that doesn't always work - for example, when posting on a comm with 400+ members. I'd reccomend books similar to the ones discussed here, I think - some fantasy, some historical, but most of all books with awesome characterisation and characters. Gen-like main characters such as Sir Percy and Lord Peter are always good.

Some books I wouldn't recommend because I know they're very narrowly culturally focussed, and so would be incredibly hard to find outside of New Zealand, or uninteresting. I wouldn't for example, reccommend my lovely new copy of Nga Pepeha to anyone here, even though I love it to bits.

Date: 10/12/09 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
Sir Percy... Lord Peter... happiness. :D

Date: 10/13/09 02:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] filkferengi
Hey! Watch where you're herding those crossover fanfic plotbunnies!

Date: 10/13/09 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
OOPS SORRY.
You know, it's really interesting to think about how the Scarlet Pimpernel books and the Lord Peter books were written around the same time. Ish. Well, Sir Percy came first (1905ish through the twenties) and then Lord Peter(starting early twenties and through the thirties), but even so.

Yes, I think about random things like this...

I MEAN NO. PLOT BUNNIES GO AWAY.
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