[identity profile] beth-shulman.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] queensthief
From a Horn Book interview with Franny Billingsley:

HB: If Chime’s Eldric has any competition at all in the hunky one-handed YA fantasy hero category, it’s Megan Whalen Turner’s Eugenides (from The Thief et al.). Tell us, if Eldric and Gen were to arm-wrestle, who would win?

FB:
What a great question! I think that one of Eldric’s great gifts is that he’s pretty connected to his childhood self, which means that he doesn’t wear much of a mask. Which means that bit by bit, he’s able to tease Briony to the surface, the real Briony, the Briony who’s suffocating under her mask. Gen, however, is dead opposite to Eldric. When I think about Gen’s character in The King of Attolia, for example, I think about the way he kept Costis so unbalanced. The reader sees him mostly through Costis’s eyes and it is only toward the end that Costis sees bits of the real Gen. Most of us wear masks to make ourselves look better, but Gen is a trickster. In The King of Attolia, for his own complex reasons, he hides his skill at swordplay, taking Costis by surprise toward the end. So if Eldric, who hasn’t much of a mask, were pitted against Gen, who turns his own mask inside out — if they were to arm-wrestle, I don’t think Eldric stands a chance.
It’s funny that I never thought about the parallel between Gen’s hand and Eldric’s hand. Perhaps it’s because of the many, many drafts in which it was Briony who lost the hand. Or perhaps it’s because Gen and Eldric are so different, that hand or no, I don’t put them in the same mental box.
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I have Chime out (six starred reviews, how could I not) and am about to read it! Interestingly - and a bit off-topic - the plagiarism part is something I've been thinking about after reading Matched - if the feel is different, and the characters are different, whether elements being similar equals plagiarism.

Back on topic: I love it when authors mention that they love MWT, mostly because she seems to fly under the radar a lot. ACoK hitting the NYT bestseller list was a bit of a shock. (A wonderful one, though!)

Date: 4/24/11 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] newsboyhat.livejournal.com
Plagiarism, what on earth?

While I love MWT, I read Chime a few weeks ago and loved everything about it. Not once did I even THINK of MWT. The themes (and characters) are entirely different, as Ms. Billingsley has so eloquently articulated herself.

However, you won't hear me defending Matched...

Date: 4/24/11 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elle-winters.livejournal.com
Agreed. I love that Gen keeps popping up with different authors, and it's always a new senario!

I absolutely love when authors know about mwt, a while back I had trouble finding anything online about the series! Oh, how we've grown :-)

Chime is on my To-Read list for break! Can't wait :-)

Date: 4/24/11 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofattolia.livejournal.com
I love it when authors mention that they love MWT, mostly because she seems to fly under the radar a lot. ACoK hitting the NYT bestseller list was a bit of a shock. (A wonderful one, though!)

Hm. That just made me realize that MWT is as reticent as her mentor Diana Wynne Jones, another great author who was never as high profile as she should have been. I mean, I love J.K. Rowling, but she owes her enormously successful career to DWJ, who was a far superior writer.

Everyone who should know MWT does already. I guess that will just have to be enough.

Date: 4/24/11 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiegirl.livejournal.com
Heh. Including us.

Date: 4/24/11 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philia-fan.livejournal.com
Ha, I was just going to post this myself!

I loved Chime, and there is nothing that even smacks of plagiarism, believe me. I think the question was just a joke, because of two one-handed heroes (but there is nothing similar about Eldric's hand loss and Gen's). Plenty of fantasy heroes and heroines (Lirael) have lost hands.

Date: 4/24/11 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philia-fan.livejournal.com
Also re plagiarism in a general way: there is a reason "ideas" are not copyrighted. It's all in how you tell it.

Date: 4/24/11 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drashizu.livejournal.com
Hooray!

And duh. Of course Gen would win. I don't even know who this other guy is and I know Gen would kick his behind.

I haven't read Chime or Matched, but from the description on Amazon (and everyone else's comments here) it seems Chime is very different from the QT series. And I know you didn't mean to suggest that it plagiarized.

What I'm curious about is, what about Matched resembles QT? I don't see anything in particular on the Amazon summary that strikes me as similar, but, of course, that's just a summary. And obviously the feel *would* be different given that it seems to be a sort of dystopian future-verse. It almost sounds more like Scott Westerfeld's Pretties series (but that's another subject entirely). Since I never plan on reading the book, feel free to spoil it in the answer, if it's necessary.

Date: 4/24/11 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] newsboyhat.livejournal.com
Oh, hmm. I think "plagiarism" is a pretty loaded word, hard to use in the general sense. I probably overreacted a bit >.>

But I definitely won't deny there are similarities. It's... not even related, the way they got their hands cut off.

Date: 4/24/11 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elle-winters.livejournal.com
I think it's getting bigger, and once the next book comes out it will be much more known (I mean the fan base has grown so much within a year of CoKs coming out)

And if they ever made a movie, it might just explode. Which is both exciting and very scary to think about =)

Date: 4/24/11 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smills47.livejournal.com
Hmm! It sounds like Hero(ine) Losing A Hand qualifies as a topos. I don't know Chime, or Lirael, but now that I think about it, Fafhrd in Fritz Leiber's Lankhmar books also loses a hand, and Vlad in Steven Brust's Dragaera books loses a finger (which sort of counts!).

Date: 4/24/11 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetrose09.livejournal.com
Love the icon!!

I feel like Gen's the shorter one, the older tougher looking one has no idea what he's getting himself into =)

Date: 4/24/11 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brandy-painter.livejournal.com
I really don't have anything to say to the point but...

I'm really trying to be patient and wait until my library gets a copy of Chime instead of buying it first. This is not helping with that resolution.

Date: 4/25/11 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missmoonbeam.livejournal.com
i know!! i want a movie soooo much... but i'm also afraid they'll completely ruin it by casting the wrong people/changing the story completely/leaving out important parts/putting in too much romance, which isnt part of the QT series at all, at least not explicitly

Date: 4/25/11 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katecoombs.livejournal.com
Brandy, once you read it I think you'll want to own it, so why not cut to the chase? :)

I did make the Gen/hand connection while reading, but it was just a passing thought and didn't distract me from a thoroughly idiosyncratic and satisfying story. Besides, Briony is the MC, the voice and heart of the book--not Eldric, though we come to care about him, too.

Date: 4/25/11 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drashizu.livejournal.com
Thanks! I actually got this icon from somewhere else; I didn't make it. But it definitely fits Gen (and pretty much anyone who would be stupid enough to mess with him) to a tee.

Date: 4/25/11 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drashizu.livejournal.com
I agree. I think the thing with dystopias is that it's very hard to make them original, or to have themes other than "Look how humanity has messed things up for future generations! Woe!"

Not that it would be *impossible* to include better themes, such as the human nature elements you can include in any story, but a lot of time, it's waysided by the Big Point About Whatever The Author's Making a Point About.

Date: 4/25/11 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brandy-painter.livejournal.com
Gee Kate, that was, again, very helpful. I'm trying to stay on a budget and practice self control. :) We have three birthdays and our anniversary in the month of May so it's kind of worse than Christmas time in our house. But one of those birthdays is mine, so maybe...

Date: 4/25/11 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elle-winters.livejournal.com
I know, it's such a two way street. I'd love a movie, but like you said, the wrong casting/cutting of scenes would leave me much more depressed, I think, than not having one at all!

*shudders at Hollywood's interperation of books to film*


Date: 4/26/11 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chachic.wordpress.com (from livejournal.com)
That interview question is a winner! I think I found out about it through bookshelves of doom? Anyway, I made the connection between Eldric and Gen only because Ana of The Book Smugglers mentioned MWT when she was convincing me to read the book. So when I got to that part, I was all "oooh so this is what she meant when she said it reminded her of MWT."

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