[identity profile] hazelwillow.livejournal.com

Spoilers spoilers spoilers! Beware!

I have been trawling through various books to figure this out...

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[identity profile] whataliethatwas.livejournal.com

I have finished Return of the Thief, and really need to process this section from V2Ch3.  I was commenting on the main book discussion thread and realized my question was rapidly becoming too unwieldy for a simple discussion and decided to post as a separate thread.  I have tried this multiple times and haven't been able to get a single cut to work despite multiple approaches and versions, so I've done an lj-cut for each paragraph individually.


So the converstion between Sophos and Helen regarding whether Gen knew of Sounis's proposal and threat to give Hamiathe's stone to Gen if Helen proposed.  Which proposal are they talking about?  It sounds like it would have to be the proposal sent before The Thief that precipitated the events of the entire series, but then why on earth would Sounis choose Gen at this point?


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[identity profile] laserpe.livejournal.com

So I found this on youtube a while ago and thought it might be relevant to our interests :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRpiBvwKX6c ;


Doesn't this song practically describe Gen or is that just me? Its called "The villain I appear to be". And the video fits too! Just watch it. 


Here are the lyrics: https://connorspiotto.bandcamp.com/releases ;


(I don't put them into the post itself because I have no idea if this might be a copyright issue.) 


(Also, shotout to the magus for providing me with an icon idea : ) 



[identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com
I saw the live-action Aladdin movie yesterday and as I watched actor Mena Massoud jump off roofs, steal earrings, juggle (albeit with two hands), and grin at everyone who hated him I thought, "THIS IS GEN." His hair curls around his ears. He can raise one eyebrow. No feather shaped scar, that I could see, but he has an adorable dimple.

Does anyone else think the same?
[identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com
I came across this article "Breaking These 11 Bad Habits Will Make You a Lot Happier" and, about halfway through, I started to laugh, thinking, "wait a minute...these remind me of someone." Let's see if you think the same. Here are the "Bad Habits."

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[identity profile] ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com
Remember that mysterious line from KoA that we investigated HERE and HERE?

“I hope you know that I could once jump from the palace to those roofs over there.” He eyed the empty space below him and said sadly, “If I tried now, I’d probably eviscerate myself when I landed. But it does give me an idea for what to do with you.” - The King of Attolia p335 (2017 paperback edition)

Mystery Solved! )

[identity profile] an-english-girl.livejournal.com
So I was re-reading The Thief (fanfic exchange reasons ... wouldn't you like to know?!?) and came across the section at the end where the Magus describes Gen's sword fight.
...The minister of war snorted. The Magus didn't recognise this as high praise, and he said stiffly: "I've been told his father wanted him to be a soldier. I'd be happy to inform his father that he has a son to be proud of."
Had he really not figured who he was talking to, as Gen assumes? Or is this a clever comment on the Magus' part, to praise Gen in a way his father can't just brush aside?

Then I got a bit further on:
"Tell me," I said, "or I'll get up and strangle you with one hand."
Ouch.
[identity profile] manderelee.livejournal.com
I've been posting a lot of fanarts on Tumblr, but I haven't shared them here yet. So here are a few of them. Hope you like!

Beware, the large file sizes. And TaT spoiler. )
[identity profile] 11rod88staff11.livejournal.com
MWT saw the hegemonic patriarchal, traditionally binary stories of old and flipped them around upon their heads. Saw duality and gave us the spectrum of all infinite possibility and Oneness in its place:

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[identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com
Here's another great interview with Megan, where she talks about writing "twists" into books, fantasy world-building, and about Gen as a character.

Favorite parts:
"The Thief is about 21 years old now, so it's just about old enough to buy a drink."
Calling her books "Fellowship of the Hamiathes Gift."

Oh, and it's official, Gen is a jerk. She's called him that at least twice now, so there you go.
[identity profile] 11rod88staff11.livejournal.com
This is quite possibly the greatest fanfic of all time: http://archiveofourown.org/chapters/478457?page=2&show_comments=true&view_full_work=false#comment_111179967


“Every single slight and annoyance from the day came flooding back, from being refused to accompany the hunt to disappointing her brother to Xanthippe’s stupid story to Phresine telling her the truth. Her frustration mounted in her until it could not be choked back any longer, and she ripped the wretched slipper from her foot and threw it across the room.“

Loathylady writes of the moment when young Irene, hurls her slipper across her room and it shatters her favorite amphora of hair oil, and she bursts into tears,… “as if her heart were throwing itself up against the bars of some cage.” …..

This fanfic is practically canon… my gods….

…..
It makes me remember her wedding night. If that hanging statement about being lachrymose wasn’t a direct fanfic prompt to the fandom from MWT, I don’t know what is.

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[identity profile] booksrgood4u.livejournal.com

Hi Sounis!!!

I have not been here in so long! I got locked out of both LJ and my backup email (what possessed my 13 yo self to set my security question to the last name of the maid of honor at my wedding is almost more of a mystery than my actual answer!) but anyway, I'm back! And bearing a discussion question, too!

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[identity profile] ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com
So, Checkers and I felt we were getting a tad disorganized with our discussions of TaT and overwhelming ourselves, so here's a little order in the chaos. Below are all current Sounis spoiler-y threads for discussing TaT. I will add new ones as we go along. Feel free to start your own thread. Just remember to hide spoilers under an LJ-cut with a clear warning.

This thread will remain "sticky" (at the top) for a few weeks or so, giving everyone a chance to read the book and comment.


SPOILERS! LOOK AWAY! )


[identity profile] readsintrees.livejournal.com
Ok, ok, I know we're all excited to discuss TaT, but I want to go back to some Thief 101. During my latest re∞read of the series, I started to wonder whether or not Gen was given the name Eugenides at birth, or if he adopted it later when he decided he wanted to be a thief and not a soldier...

I mean, how did his parents know to name him Eugenides without knowing first that he was going to grow up to be a Thief? His dad sure seemed to want him to be a soldier. Do they just randomly name a few people in a generation Eugenides in the hopes that ONE of them turns out to be a worthy Thief? In "The Thief" the Magus snidely tells Gen that the current Queen's Thief is named Eugenides, and Gen snaps back that they (thieves) are ALL named Eugenides after the god of thieves. I suspect he said this just to throw the Magus further off any suspicion that Gen was the same person as the Queen's Thief. Because, if there are so many people also named after the god of thieves, how come we haven't bumped into any other Eugenideses?

Attolia/Irene tells Nahuseresh at one point that the Queen's Thief of Eddis takes the name Eugenides as a sort of title as well as a name, so although this is non-Eddisian hearsay, I wonder if it's true....Did Gen take the name Eugenides as a new name as well as a new title when he declared he was going to be the Queen's Thief? WAIT, for that matter, what if the newest Queen's Thief is female? Does she go by Eugenidia?

What do you think? Am I overlooking some passage where Gen says specifically that he was given the name Eugenides at birth?
[identity profile] an-english-girl.livejournal.com
After considering Gen as an introvert in the QoA read-along, with regards to the Winter of Whining/Healing, I thought it might be fun to pass the last two days before Thick As Thieves by assessing the Myers-Briggs Personality Types for all four monarchs.

I know: I have a weird sense of fun. If you haven’t, don’t click the link XD

In which four fictional characters are taken (apart) far too seriously... )
[identity profile] 11rod88staff11.livejournal.com
As a spiritual, non-religious person the divine elements of MWT's Queen's Thief Series have touched me on more levels than I had ever though possible. MWT's fascination with the Greek gods and goddesses flows abundantly off her pages. While these tales of said gods and goddesses I left behind in grade school without much thought beyond their mythology, there is no doubt that her work is channeling Source Love... and it's a desperately needed proclamation that All Gods/Goddesses are One (and there is no difference between the 7 predominant religions of the world or any of the others.. all arrive at one singular goal, and that is that all things can ultimately come from a place of Love. I'm less referring to the consistent interactions that Eugenides has with his gods, and more to the godliness in the man himself, that behind the whining and the complaining and the superficial ungodly, unkingly elements of Gen's personality, he acts in the image of Christ. (and that contrast is what precisely what is fascinating about him).

There is such omnipotence in the essence of Eugenides' character and his Journey to "Love thy greatest enemy." That MWT could channel the Divine without ever saying the words (as she is known for) is simply exponential. Ecstatic.

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