[identity profile] aged-crone.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] queensthief
Some years ago, a newsletter about books to which I subscribed had us write in for an article about books that in our opinions should have had sequels, but didn't. Someone called it "Books Without Equals We Wish Had Had Sequels," which I loved.

So - leaving out any books that have come out so recently they probably will have sequels if we give the author five minutes to breathe, and leaving out series that stopped too soon (like Antonia Forest's Marlow family books - although now I find that someone else has written the "next book," whose arrival I'm awaiting with trepidation because what if it's terrible?), (which actually would make a good post on its own), what are some books that you think need sequels (and don't you just love parentheses)?

I can think of several, even at 2:30 in the morning when I'm staring at a computer screen when I should be sleeping but woke up abruptly and can't get my eyes to close again. Several of these are ones I just mentioned in the WSK post, which is what made me think of them.

THE WONDERFUL YEAR, by Nancy Barnes (which I submitted to the original article)
ENEMY BROTHERS, by Constance Savery
THE REB AND THE REDCOAT, also by Constance Savery (it has a little bit at the end about "what happened years later" that would make a great springboard for another book)
THE BORROWED HOUSE, by Hilda Van Stockum
CAMPION TOWERS, by John and Patricia Beatty

What these all have in common are characters that are interesting and stories that leave interesting possibilities for future events, even though they are complete in themselves. And while certainly I can imagine for myself what might happen next, I'd really rather have the author write it so I can savor the writing.

Date: 3/7/12 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofattolia.livejournal.com
The sequel-less books I regret the most are the late Diana Wynne Jones' Deep Secret and The Merlin Conspiracy. I so wanted to read more about Rupert Venables and Nick and Maree Mallory and their lives as Magids, and now I never will. :(

And like every other annoying reader out there, I'd love to read a sequel to Robin McKinley's Sunshine, but she doesn't seem inclined to produce one ever, which of course is her prerogative.

Date: 3/7/12 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] willow-41z.livejournal.com
YES. SUNSHINE. I came here specifically to mention this book. And, of course, ditto what you said about this being her prerogative!

Date: 3/7/12 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booksrgood4u.livejournal.com
I usually have a different problem:

The book does have a sequel, but the library doesn't have it!!!!

Date: 3/8/12 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
I hear ya.

Date: 3/11/12 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 1221bookworm.livejournal.com
Hear! Hear!! :(

Date: 3/14/12 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sclerotia.livejournal.com
See if your library has some way to request the books you want. Mine has a form to fill out and has been very responsive to my requests. I pre-ordered a personal copy of CoK, but after it came out I noticed that that the library didn't have a copy. I filled out the handy dandy request form; they purchased it and sent it ou to me fairly quickly. In this case I felt a little guilty since I really didn't want the copy for myself, but, really, what kind of self respecting library wouldn't have at least one copy of each of MWT's books?!

Date: 3/21/12 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empmai.livejournal.com
My library has the problem with they will have the sequel but no the first book in the series. (Or they will have book 2 & 4 but not book 1 & 3)

Date: 3/7/12 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drashizu.livejournal.com
I know I have more, but I can't think of them at the moment . . . one that I wish had had a sequel, though, is Robin McKinley's The Blue Sword. I know there's The Hero and the Crown, but it's more like a prequel, and has completely different characters, and I think it's more of a companion book than a sequel.

Animist, by Eve Forward, was also an exceptionally good book set in a really cool fantasy world that has no sequel, and I wish it did.
Edited Date: 3/7/12 10:47 pm (UTC)

Date: 3/7/12 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiegirl.livejournal.com
Yes, Animist. I thought it was going to have one, but it never did. :(

Date: 3/7/12 11:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] msmcknittington.livejournal.com
I'd really like to see a sequel to The Perilous Gard, but I might also just want a book about 16thc marsh drainage methods which also involves ye olde magical folk.

Date: 3/7/12 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chubbyleng.livejournal.com
I was just about to say this!! What prevented me was that the conclusion was very solid, and I couldn't think of anything that was unresolved that could lead to a sequel.

But I def agree! More Kate and Chris is never bad for one's health!

Date: 3/7/12 11:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] msmcknittington.livejournal.com
Like the only thing left unresolved is the success of Chris's soggy manor, which means the sequel would be 350 pages of riveting ditch digging and proper trenching technique. :P I guess they could dig up another fair folk dwelling? Or they could get mixed up in Elizabeth's court somehow? Political intrigue and drainage?

But, yes, more Kate and Chris could never go wrong.

Date: 3/8/12 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chubbyleng.livejournal.com
Haha. Right, now that you mention it, weren't they arguing about where some kind of stable (it slips my mind) will go? Everyone knows figuring out where something goes should take at least 100 pages! Haha. Oh true... or maybe the old fairy queen will come back and tries to get a proper revenge on Kate.

Date: 3/8/12 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
I was gonna ask if it had to be a "sequel", strictly speaking, because I've always wished Elizabeth Marie Pope had written more than 2 books, never mind whether they were in a series or not! I nearly wept when I discovered that she had passed away!

Date: 3/8/12 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
I second this. Two excellent books with wonderful endings that leave you satisfied. Not that I would complain if there was a sequel to either of them, just sayin'...

Date: 3/9/12 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandtree.livejournal.com
I agree! I don't think either of her books need sequels, I just wish she had written more than two books!

Date: 3/8/12 03:45 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] msmcknittington.livejournal.com
Oh my god, I love it. Seriously giggling out loud over here. I have heard of Wilmer McLean, and I can just see the Lady in Green being rather put out that she's run into Kate again. If it wasn't for those kids!

Date: 3/8/12 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meltintall3.livejournal.com
The Lady in Green being put out? I can see Kate being put out as well. "Just go away, we have a ditch to drain."

But Kate would feel a little guilty as well, so she'd try to come up with a practical solution for the Fair Folk.

Date: 3/7/12 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ccwtaylor.livejournal.com
I want more books set in the world of The Sorceress and the Cygnet, and The Cygnet and the Firebird, by Patricia McKillip. These are lovely books (that demand an intelligence from the reader), and the second one ends in a place where I don't want it to! So so so frustrting. Are any of the rest of you McKillip fans?

Date: 3/7/12 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chubbyleng.livejournal.com
I once tried reading "Alphabet of Thorns" but didn't really get through with it. I don't know how well it compares to her other works, and I'm reluctant to try more from her. Are there any that you would recommend?

Date: 3/8/12 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com
I liked the Cygnet books a lot, too. You might try them, chubbyleng. I liked the Riddle Master of Hed books, but some say those aren't her best--a little derivative, maybe? And the Forgotten Beasts of Eld is lovely, that one is my favorite. It's McKillip at her best--lush and lyrical.

Date: 3/8/12 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etv13.livejournal.com
My favorites are The Changeling Sea and The Book of Atrix Wolfe.

Date: 3/10/12 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valiantarcher.livejournal.com
It depends on what all you like, but two of my favourite McKillips are The Bell of Sealey Head and In the Forests of Serre. The former has a innkeeper who just wants to be left alone to read his books and an enchanted house with doors leading to another world. The latter is really kind of fairytale-ish, with a prince literally losing his heart, a firebird, some wizards, a witch with a crazy cottage, and a reluctant princess who won't marry a heartless man.
In general, though, I find McKillip to have very interesting stories withe beautiful writing though they can be quite hard to get into, a bit hard to follow, and not always completely satisfying endings. If you can get into her stories, though, they're generally rewarding. :) If not, well, I can't blame you---it took me four books to actually start liking McKillip. :D

Date: 3/8/12 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loquaciousquark.livejournal.com
Oh Lord, I am a gigantic McKillip fan (as evidenced by this recent post of mine (http://loquaciousquark.livejournal.com/93602.html) about her Riddle Master series), but I've somehow never read her Cygnet books. I did love Alphabet of Thorn and Od Magic, though, and looking at her Wiki page there's a ton of other books I seem to have overlooked, so I've definitely got my reading planned out for the next few weeks.

Do the Cygnet books at least tell a complete story?

Date: 3/8/12 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ccwtaylor.livejournal.com
Here's my own Riddlemaster post (http://charlotteslibrary.blogspot.com/2009/09/riddle-master-trilogy-by-patricia.html); I think they are a good place to start. Or the Cygnet books--but I say that a bit reluctantly, because they are both books in which things don't make a lot of sense, until they do...so you have to have a bit of patience. The two books do tell a complete story, and it's not even a cliffhanger ending, but it's clear that the story of the main characters is going to go on, and I wish I could keep them company!

Date: 3/8/12 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ccwtaylor.livejournal.com
And here is my favorite bit from the second Cygnet book, as a teaser:

The first speaker is a prince caught by an enchantment that transforms him each day into a firebird. The second speaker is the heir to her own holding, a young woman with the most insatiably curious mind for magic of any heroine I know, who is determined to break the spell.

"You used to look like a mage."

"What does a mage look like?"

"Like a closed book full of strange and marvellous things. Like the closed door to a room full of peculiar noises, lights that seep out under the door. Like a beautiful jar made of thick, colored glass that holds something glowing inside that you can't quite see, no matter how you turn the jar."

"And now?" she whispered. He came close; the light at their feet cast hollows of shadow across his eyes, drew the precise lines of his mouth clear.

"Now," he said softly, "you aren't closed. You're letting me see."

He slid his hand beneath her hair, around her neck. She watched light tremble in a drop of water near the corner of his mouth. He bent his head. The light leaped from star to star across his face, and then vanished. She closed her eyes and he was gone..."

Date: 3/7/12 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chubbyleng.livejournal.com
How about "Eagle of the Ninth"? =P Esca and Marcus could have another adventure! From the end though, it seems as if Marcus was gonna get married.

Date: 3/8/12 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
So? Cottia could be in on the adventure, too. In fact I think she'd make it pretty awesome. (Thank goodness MWT didn't see marriage as the end of her characters' adventures!!)

Date: 3/8/12 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chubbyleng.livejournal.com
Er... well, I have nothing against marriage of main characters (although I do admit that most of those who do in the books I've read usually drop out of the action and let side characters take over), but I said the last part only because I didn't really like Cottia. Or at least, the role she played in the book didn't allow me to grow fond of her, so maybe more exposure from her wouldn't be so bad.

Date: 3/9/12 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booksrgood4u.livejournal.com
I'm with you about Cottia...I wasn't real fond of her either.

Date: 3/10/12 01:34 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yeah... to me, she sorta just came out of nowhere, in the romantic sense. I mean, she was what, 12 or 13 when she first meets Marcus, and he was like 20? I thought they were cute when they played with Cub together and stuff, but it sorta felt more like Marcus was her babysitter or something. Then in the end, all of a sudden, they were going to get married!

Date: 3/10/12 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chubbyleng.livejournal.com
That was me....

Date: 3/8/12 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etv13.livejournal.com
In a way, The Eagle of the Ninth has a whole series of sequels, all the way through The Shield Ring. It's just that the only recurring character is a certain emerald ring. (Though we do get actual characters recurring in The Lantern Bearers and Sword at Sunset.)

Date: 3/8/12 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayvara.livejournal.com
I can't think of any books that should have sequels but don't, but I can think of a lot of books that had sequels that I really disliked.

Date: 3/8/12 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etv13.livejournal.com
Barbara Hambly went a book too far for me in a couple of her series, though I would still love to see a sequel to Bride of the Rat God. And while I don't hate the sequels to Carol Berg's Transformation (who could object to more Seyonne and Alekhsander?) the ending of that was perfect and complete and satisfying.

Date: 3/8/12 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ccwtaylor.livejournal.com
All the Pern sequels come immedieatly to mind. I wish I had never read Masterharper of Pern in particular!

Date: 3/8/12 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booksrgood4u.livejournal.com
Totally agreed...there were about 50 too many!

Date: 3/8/12 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meltintall3.livejournal.com
THE REB AND THE REDCOAT, also by Constance Savery (it has a little bit at the end about "what happened years later" that would make a great springboard for another book)

Thanks to the power of suggestion... I just re-read this book. There's also the paragraph that I would never have noticed pre MWT years ago... about Randal intending to give Charlotte something gold, smaller than a circlet, instead of a crown... *squeak!*

Date: 3/9/12 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elle-winters.livejournal.com
There was this one book and thus far I haven't heard that it has a sequal though at the end of the book I was certain it HAD to be part of a series!

Secret Society by Tom Dolby

anyone heard of it/know of a sequal?

Date: 3/14/12 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sclerotia.livejournal.com
Amazon lists this one: The Trust: A Secret Society Novel by Tom Dolby
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