[identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] queensthief
No time to read the classics?  This idea comes from [livejournal.com profile] 1221bookworm :

There are some really good BBC/Masterpiece/similar type movie productions of the classics out there, and as much as I enjoy Charles Dicken's "Bleak House" or Jane Austin's "Pride and Prejudice," there's no way that I could read them, since some days I only get to read for 3 minutes while trying to eat my lunch, and as movies, I get to enjoy them the pain-free way.

What are some of your favorite video adaptations of books?  Where should [livejournal.com profile] 1221bookworm start?

Date: 8/4/12 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booksrgood4u.livejournal.com
I am first?! How can this be!! XD

My favorites are:
'Pride and Predjudice', with Jennifer Ehle and Colin Firth, because if Colin Firth isn't in it, it ain't P&P!
'The Importance of Being Earnest' is another awesome book adaptation with Colin Firth in it. I had originally read the play, and thought it was hilarious, and the movie is even better, and very true to the book. It also has Frances O'Connor and Reese Witherspoon in it.

I also like alot of the Charles Dickens and Jane Austen movies. BBC and Masterpiece Theater both make great movie adaptations. Bleak House, which Bookworm mentioned is also great.
Edited Date: 8/4/12 03:44 pm (UTC)

Date: 8/4/12 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aged-crone.livejournal.com
I have to disagree - Colin Firth isn't my idea of Mr. Darcy at all, and I didn't particularly care for that adaptation of Pride & Prejudice. I don't know why, but of all the P&P adaptations I've seen the only one I can stand is the one with Keira Knightley.

Date: 8/5/12 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booksrgood4u.livejournal.com
But...but Colin Firth is so handsome!! LOL, different strokes for dfferent folks, I guess. I've never seen the one you mentioned above. It's actually the first movie of that genre I ever saw, so i has special placein my heart for that reason, too.

Date: 8/5/12 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aged-crone.livejournal.com
That's another thing - I don't find Colin Firth at all handsome. Definitely different strokes...

Date: 8/5/12 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aged-crone.livejournal.com
That's why I said "I don't know why..." You'd think that things like the pigs would make me so irritated I'd hate the film, and I can't figure out why I like it. Maybe because it's different enough from the book that I almost don't think of the book when I watch it? Who knows.

(By the way: I'm re-reading Mansfield Park. Haven't read it for years and years, and then only once, so I didn't remember much about it. But I suspect the reason I *didn't* re-read it was because I seriously want to smack Fanny Price one right upside her overly-weepy, constantly-blushing, wimpy and annoying head. Yearrrghhh!!!! )

Date: 8/24/12 03:55 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I know! And Kiera on the swing among the pigs, too! Don't get me wrong, I do love pigs, really. But ...but...
I agree with you. I didn't care for that version.

Date: 8/24/12 03:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh, sorry! Forgot to sign in -- that was me, talking about Kiera and the pigs just now.
~deirdrej

Date: 8/4/12 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 1221bookworm.livejournal.com
Thanks, Checkers!! :)

Some other great movies:

Victoria and Albert with Victoria Hamilton and Jonathan Firth. Great story about Queen Victoria in her early years on the throne, and her relatioship with her husband, Prince Albert. (It was recently semi-redone as The Young Victoria, but I haven't seen this one, only the old one.)

The Phantom of the Opera for anyone who likes opera and music too. Andrew Lloyd's Webber's version with Emily Rossum and Gerard Butler. (We read the book after we watched the movie, and believe me, the book was torture.)

There's also Nicholas and Alexandria, it tells of the end of the Russian tsars, and it is sad, because at the end they all get shot, but it is an interesting movie, and there is nice music in it.

And if anyone is interested in more recent docudramas, Iron-Jawed Angels is an HBO home movie about the end of the Woman's Rights Movement. This movie really makes the people in the history come alive.

Looking foward to seeing everyone's responses!! :)

Date: 8/5/12 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booksrgood4u.livejournal.com
The Phatom of the Opera was nothing like the book! But it's one of the only cases where I lik the movie better. Mostly I just wanted to use my brand new PotO icon. I'm going to sing like Christine someday *nods*

Date: 8/4/12 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rj-anderson.livejournal.com
The BBC miniseries adaptation of Elizabeth Gaskell's NORTH AND SOUTH with Daniela Denby-Ashe and Richard Armitage is amazing. I also really loved their four-part JANE EYRE -- I've seen a lot of Jane adaptations including the most recent movie, but that one's still my favorite.

The 1985 movie adaptation of E.M. Forster's A ROOM WITH A VIEW is a favorite of mine as well, though watch out for the full-frontal male nudity (brief, and in a totally non-sexual context, so I always forget it's there until somebody comes flapping back to me yelling "YOU NEVER WARNED ME ABOUT THE POND SCENE!!!" and I say, "Ohhhh, right!").

This probably makes me a horrible bad Jane Austen fan, but I liked the Gwyneth Paltrow EMMA and thought Jeremy Northam was the perfect Mr. Knightley. I think the 1995 PERSUASION with Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Root is excellent too, and if you haven't seen the Emma Thompson SENSE AND SENSIBILITY, you should get on that.

And speaking of Emma Thompson, the Thompson/Branagh MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING is not to be missed, even though Michael Keaton's Dogberry is just weird and I have no idea what Keanu Reeves thought he was doing in that film. (Denzel Washington is lovely, though.) Ditto Branagh's HENRY V, though the recent BBC trio of RICHARD II (Ben Whishaw) / HENRY IV Parts I and II (Jeremy Irons) / HENRY V (Tom Hiddleston) are really very fine as well.

And if you're into longer series, the early 80's TV adaptation of James Herriot's ALL CREATURES GREAT AND SMALL is delightful.
Edited Date: 8/4/12 04:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 8/4/12 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
Oh, I want to second everything in this post! Especially North & South and Much Ado About Nothing! I've always loved the Paltrow/Northam version of Emma as well, and never understood why others didn't like it! I thought it captured both the beauty and the humor of Austen just perfectly. :) And we're big fans of All Creatures in my household. I think we've gone through all 7 seasons a couple of times. Henry V (Branagh's) is simply classic, and not to be missed. (Long ago in my choir days, we sang "Non nobis, Domine" over and over again by popular request.) I'm also enjoying the new BBC productions ft. Tom Hiddleston, though I haven't seen the first or last episodes yet!

A great (smashing, wonderful, re-watchable) A&E series is Horatio Hornblower (based on the books by C. S. Forester, starring Ioan Gruffudd and Jamie Bamber). I own the complete series and WISH WISH WISH they would continue it at some point in the future...

Date: 8/4/12 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofattolia.livejournal.com
Oh yes! North and South! Really amazing. I also liked the somewhat recent version of Gaskell's Wives and Daughters, in which Iain "Ser Jorah/Sir Richard Carlisle" Glen played the villain (big surprise).

Date: 8/5/12 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
Speaking of Iain Glen, I'm rather fond of him because I first saw him as Alan Breck in Masterpiece Theatre's 2005 version of Kidnapped - which may not be the most faithful adaption of the book, but it's still the best, IMHO. Absolutely love it. (The music is fantastic, as is the scenery.)

Date: 8/15/12 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mary-j-59.livejournal.com
I second the rec for the recent Kidnapped! And the best version of Treasure Island I have ever seen is the 1990 Lion's Gate version starring Christian Bale as Jim and Charlton Heston (no kidding - Charlton Heston!) as Long John Silver.

Date: 8/4/12 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aged-crone.livejournal.com
C. Northcote Parkinson wrote a biography of Horatio Hornblower (yes, yes, I know he's fictional, but it's a full-blown biography featuring period illustrations that would make you swear he was real).

Which makes me think that someone needs to write a scholarly biography of the Annux Eugenides.

Date: 8/5/12 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
There's a HH quote in the Queen's Thief series?! WHY did I not know this?! (Where?! Where?!)

Date: 8/6/12 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
I would beg, and plead that my books are all boxed away in storage for several months... but that might be beneath my sleuthing dignity. (Actually. Dignity be darned. I WANNA KNOW NOW.) :P

Date: 8/4/12 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rj-anderson.livejournal.com
Oh YES, absolutely YES to the Hornblower series. Wonderful stuff.

And I start to tear up just thinking about "Non Nobis, Domine". Patrick Doyle, you are killing me here.

Date: 8/4/12 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aged-crone.livejournal.com
Agree, agree, agree about Branagh's Henry V. I bought a CD of religious songs by a high school choir that includes both the original "Non nobis" and the one from the movie; they're both lovely. (On a lower plane: That gorgeous flowing cape that King Henry wears!!!!) Also enjoyed Mel Gibson's Hamlet.

Hornblower also excellent, and more agreement about wishing it would continue...

Date: 8/4/12 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shelver506.livejournal.com
YES!!!!!! I came to this topic to put in my two cents on N&S and I'm SO glad you beat me to it.

Sigh. Such a swoontastic interpretation by Richard Armitage. The things that man can do with his eyes...

Date: 8/5/12 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
(He's gonna be an a-m-a-z-i-n-g Thorin Oakenshield... *removes Tolkienite fan hat*)

Date: 8/4/12 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aged-crone.livejournal.com
I agree with you about Emma, Persuasion (though I really didn't like Cieran Hinds in his role) and Sense and Sensibility.

And also about All Creatures Great and Small. The people don't necessarily look like I imagined them looking, but they captured the flavor of the books perfectly, and since I usually loathe tv or movie adaptations of books I love, that's a real compliment!

Date: 8/4/12 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofattolia.livejournal.com
The BBC version of Dickens' Our Mutual Friend. It's superb, and full of British actors I love (including Paul McGann, the Eighth Doctor).

An old favorite from the '80s is the adaptation of E.M. Forster's A Room with a View, starring the young and gorgeous Helena Bonham Carter (yes, Bellatrix LeStrange herself) and the youngish Maggie Smith (yes, Professor MacGonagall AND the Dowager Countess herself). It is lush, unbelievably romantic and beautiful, with equal parts of amazing Italian and English scenery.

Although people complained that the leads were too old, I still love Ang Lee's version of Austen's Sense and Sensibility starring Emma Thompson and Kate Winslet, and Roger Michel's Persuasion, which is so wistful I wanted to cry throughout it. The BBC remade both of these a few years ago, but while the leads are more age-appropriate, the treatments also seem shallower (they also did a remake of A Room with a View with similar results).

Date: 8/5/12 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
A ROOM WITH A VIEW is one of the few situations where I think the movie is actually better than the book--yet the movie still manages to perfectly capture the tone and style of the novel. It is the epitome of what a faithful adaptation can and should be. (It also introduced me to Forster and to Merchant Ivory's films--I ended up writing half my senior thesis on it.) And I love it. So much.

and...Sense and Sensibility also fits that category, actually. (The novel suffers from having been converted from an epistolary to a regular novel and that last-minute bit where Wickham shows up to apologize.)

Date: 8/10/12 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hazelwillow.livejournal.com
Seconding A Room With a View. It's one of only three movies I think are better than their books. Very rare! (And I love the book).

The other two, for me, are East of Eden and What's Eating Gilbert Grape. The Lord of the Rings are also really good adaptations, IMO.

Date: 8/4/12 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofattolia.livejournal.com
Forgot to add: if anyone can find it, in the '80s the BBC did a huge, sprawling adaptation of Paul Scott's fascinating The Raj Quartet, renamed The Jewel in the Crown, all about the independence and partition of India and Pakistan after WWII. I know; sounds dry, but it was anything but - actually very nearly a soap opera against the backdrop of India's post-colonial troubles. The cast is wonderful, particularly the young and extremely dishy Charles "Tywin Lannister" Dance. Really, he was the Richard Armitage of his day. Whoa. But in a remake today I guess he's be played by Cumberbatch or Laurence Fox.

Date: 8/4/12 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
Not that the original book is that long (and its worth reading before watching the movie because the end is different) but I love, love, LOVE the 1982 version of The Scarlet Pimpernel with Anthony Andrews. I actually watched it with my roommate last night... sooo good.

Date: 8/4/12 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aged-crone.livejournal.com
Oh, I couldn't agree with you more! I watched that when it first was on TV (before you were born, I know!) and loved it. And I also recommend the version of Ivanhoe that starred Anthony Andrews, James Mason, and Olivia Hussey.

Date: 8/5/12 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booksrgood4u.livejournal.com
I love Th Scarlet Pimpernel! We read the book, which was great, and we did watch a movie version, but it was *nothing* like the book - and I think you can guess if it wa better or worse! (Worse, defintely!) I don't think we saw the one you're talking about though.

Date: 8/5/12 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aged-crone.livejournal.com
You say "the book." Did you know that it's a whole series of books? Available online at http://blakeneymanor.com/

The one that's called Eldorado I think is the one (apart from the original) on which the Anthony Andrews one was based.

Date: 8/5/12 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booksrgood4u.livejournal.com
We read "The Scarlet Pimpernel" I think I knew that there were more somwhere in the back of my mind, but thanks for the link, now I can check them out :

Date: 8/5/12 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosaleeluann.livejournal.com
The 1982 Movie was based on both The Scarlet Pimpernel and El Dorado... The first part with Percy and Marguerite falling in love, getting married, etc. is in The Scarlet Pimpernel, then the part with Percy getting captured and them rescuing the Dauphin is in El Dorado. I don't mind them mixing the plots, because I feel that they stay true to the characters, which is the important part IMHO.

And if for some, like me, its more convenient to listen to an audiobook rather than read (especially on a computer screen, which makes my eyes hurt after too long)... librivox to the rescue! Here (https://catalog.librivox.org/search.php?title=&author=orczy&status=all&action=Search) are all of Baroness Orczy's books that are recorded.

Date: 8/5/12 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
My love for the Anthony Andrews' version is undying. (I love the book too, and yes, the film deviates from it a lot... whatever. I can love both!) In fact, my friends and I love it so much we spoofed it at a costume/play party - our version was entitled The Hot Pink Pimpernel... suffice to say, a pink Ring-Pop was one of our main props.

Date: 8/5/12 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aged-crone.livejournal.com
Do read the other books, if you haven't!

(I sometimes think Orczy was paid extra for each time she used the phrase "inane laugh." I have to say that having Sir Percy be Anthony-Andrews-sized instead of a giant, as he is in the books, makes more sense to me; easier to disguise yourself as a whole bunch of different people if you're normal sized).

Date: 8/4/12 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aged-crone.livejournal.com
For years, I wouldn't watch it because I loved the book so much I feared the movie would ruin it, but I was wrong: To Kill a Mockingbird, starring Gregory Peck. They did a beautiful job.

Date: 8/6/12 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've been watching the BBC's television series, Marple, based on the mystery novels by Agatha Cristie. They are really good!

You should also watch Little Women, (the one with Wynona Rider and Kirsten Dunst). Best death scene ever.

Too Lazy to Sign in,
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Date: 8/6/12 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frosted-feather.livejournal.com
I watched the 2002 BBC's "Nicholas Nickleby" because Jamie Bell was in it and it's really good. Jamie Bell's performance as Smike is a tear-jerker! The story can get a little dark, because it talks about bad boarding schools in Yorkshire, and the plot jumps around, but it's a pretty good adaptation of the book. (Which I have still to finish, but it says somoething if a movie of Dickens makes me want to read the book.)

Date: 8/6/12 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
I almost forgot Cranford and Return to Cranford. A little bittersweet, laugh-out-loud humorous, and chock-full of great actors/actresses. I highly recommend them!

Date: 8/8/12 06:15 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
So many of my favorites have already been mentioned! Gotta give another shout out for Our Mutal Friend, since it's only been mentioned once. One of my all-time favorite movies EVER! Unforgettable characters. Eminently quotable. Dickens was a master and the BBC has done about as much justice to the book as it would be possible for a movie to do.

Delayed posting, so someone has now beaten me to these:

Cranford, based on three novels by Elizabeth Gaskell. Very good. The sequel/follow-up Return to Cranford is good, though not as good (I think it was either only very slightly based on Gaskell, or the screenwriters wrote it themselves); for Tom Hiddleston lovers, he is in it.

Nicholas Nickleby (2002). This was a theater release, so can be watched in one night if you aren't in the mood for a miniseries. The same director, who was also the screenwriter, also directed and screenwrote the Gwyneth Paltrow Emma.

Some others I haven't seen listed yet:

Shorter/feature length/can easily be watched in an evening--

Twelfth Night (1996), Helena Bonham Carter and Ben Kingsley. Love this.

Enchanted April, based on the novel by Elizabeth von Arnim. A lovely, gentle film.

Les Miserables (1998), Liam Neeson, Clare Danes. There is at least one other version (maybe more?) that is also good.

Silas Marner (1985), Ben Kingsley is Silas.

Under the Greenwood Tree (2005), based on the novel by Thomas Hardy. Something by Hardy that is actually not depressing.

84 Charing Cross Road. Not one of my tops (think I've only seen it once), but based on a book and pretty decent.

Longish or miniseries--

Little Dorrit (2008). There is also a version from 1988 starring Derek Jacobi, which I think was pretty good, too, but it's been a long time since I saw it, so won't claim that strongly.

Middlemarch (1994).

Martin Chuzzlewit (1994).

David Copperfield (2000), starring a pre-Harry Potter Daniel Radcliffe.

Crime and Punishment (Prestuplenie i nakazanie) (1970) Faithful adaptation, if you can find it, but very long. The actors seemed to capture the spirit and essence of the characters. One caveat: since this is a Russian movie, you'll have to watch with English captions. Since the captions were white and the movie was black-and-white, sometimes when the background was really light the captions would fade into near invisibility and be almost impossible to read. This was on a video tape, though--maybe they would have fixed that problem on the DVD version.

Series--

Jeeves and Wooster, series starring Hugh Laurie and Steven Fry, each episode about 40 minutes. As hilarious as the books.

Brother Cadfael, detective series, starring Derek Jacobi, based on books by Ellis Peters. OK, the books don't really belong in the "classics" category, but still worth watching/reading. Each ep about 75 minutes.

Foyle's War, detective series set in England during WWII. Excellent. I mention it last only because it is not based on a book, but mention in spite of not being book-based because it is that good. Each ep about 1 hr 40 min.

--Handmaiden

Date: 8/8/12 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
Seconding Foyle's War! The very last season was a bit of a let-down (I just don't think it worked outside the original context of WWII), but overall it's one of my favorite British mystery series of all time!

Oh! And while on the subject of British mysteries... BBC's Sherlock is fantastic. I love how closely the writers are sticking to canon, even while cleverly placing them in the modern day. It's one of those things that had incredible potential for being horrific... if they weren't doing it so perfectly!

Date: 8/13/12 06:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] filkferengi
Both versions of "Enchanted April"--1992 & 1935--rock [mismatched--hi, Argh!] socks!

Date: 8/10/12 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hazelwillow.livejournal.com
There are only three movies I've found that are such good adaptations, I think they actually tell their stories better than their books. They give me the impression, instead of pruning the book, of having crystalized into a clearer and stronger version of itself.

East of Eden This movie is perfection. It manages to crystalise the entire many-hundred-paged Steinbeck book into a short story that gets across the same ideas, but is BETTER. The characters are better, the story is better, and the performances are great. James Dean is fascinating, and then there's a wonderful female character, Abra. The movie allows her character to shine and gives her an importance she never gets in the book. I was touched that the male filmmakers and writers were able to understand a female character so well, and allow her to express herself so honestly. John Steinbeck had a hand in adapting the screenplay, so I think this must be one of the reasons it's so good --as though the author was given a second chance to actually improve on his book itself.

A Room with a View I love this too. It's a little sweeter than the book (although the book is also absolutely wonderful). And it has some very funny scenes. If you like period dramas, please watch it. And if you don't, please watch it. It's like cream and strawberries. :)

What's Eating Gilbert Grape I don't know why this movie isn't more famous. Johnny Depp plays a young man who's stuck in his Iowa town. Leo DiCaprio plays his mentally disabled younger brother. Both of them are really good and the movie manages to condense the story in a way I really like, a little sweeter than the book (which is very bitter and sarcastic), but without being too sweet. :)

Date: 8/24/12 04:11 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi!

Speaking of adaptations that are even better than the book, does anybody else love the BBC (or was it ITV) Flambards? Such a fun series! I'm hoping I'm going to find it on DVD someday...

~deirdrej
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