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I don't speak French, but I can read it, sort of, with a lot of help from online translaters.
There's an article about the effigy of Berengaria of Navarre (Richard the Lionheart's Queen). The article isn't a problem, but there's an video of an interview included. Since as far as I can tell French is spoken by ignoring about 3/4 of the letters, I can't figure out what words are being said so that I can figure out or look up their meanings.
So: Could someone who a)speaks French and b)has loads of spare time possibly tell me what they're saying? Please? You could pretend it's Attolian...
https://www.ouest-france.fr/pays-de-la-loire/le-mans-72000/l-abbaye-de-l-epau-le-gisant-de-berengere-va-demenager-5540795
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I don't speak French, but I can read it, sort of, with a lot of help from online translaters.
There's an article about the effigy of Berengaria of Navarre (Richard the Lionheart's Queen). The article isn't a problem, but there's an video of an interview included. Since as far as I can tell French is spoken by ignoring about 3/4 of the letters, I can't figure out what words are being said so that I can figure out or look up their meanings.
So: Could someone who a)speaks French and b)has loads of spare time possibly tell me what they're saying? Please? You could pretend it's Attolian...
https://www.ouest-france.fr/pays-de-la-loire/le-mans-72000/l-abbaye-de-l-epau-le-gisant-de-berengere-va-demenager-5540795
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Date: 3/13/18 07:51 pm (UTC)When they found the skeleton in 1960, the finder freaked out & couldn't identify the bones, so called upon the father of the first speaker [Gilles guy], a doctor, for assistance. He wasn't much more help, only able to say they were the bones of a woman around 59 [cinquante-neuf] years of age. Michel Niaussat, Cistercian monk, confirmed they couldn't verify much more than that. Helene Chedorge, director of the Cultural Center of Sarthe, confirmed that they couldn't officially say it was the skeleton of Berengaria, only that it was the skeleton of a woman buried at the beginning of the 13th century.
The monk & then the doctor talk about how they put the bones in a box & looked at them, the doctor gesturing to his skull & pointing out the place where the skull of the skeleton had a whole in the left temporal lobe and some green lines going around the skull. "A crown?" speculates the old monk. The crown, if it was, had disappeared. The old monk remarks that a king or queen were never buried with their crown. To take a photograph, they put the skull back in the tomb, showing the hole. [see photo in video at 2:54.]
The old monk notes, the skull was at the side; therefore, it was of a decapitated person. One doesn't decapitate a queen, & put her in a tomb. One makes the tomb the length of the queen [not cut the body to fit].
3:10 If the skeleton isn't Berengaria, who was buried in the chapel tomb? Father Michel Niaussat has two theories: between 1792 & 1816, during the Revolution & the Terror, they raised the stones of the chapel. Finding an empty opening, they used it. The person had been murdered by decapitation, put in the hole, no longer spoken of, & forgotten [hand-brushing movement].
If it wasn't a capital criminal, it would be the bones of Jeanne Langevine, a worthy woman who, at the end of the 13th century, gave all her goods and estates, because her husband, who drank & beat her, to the monks, to be cared for until the end of her life & to be buried in the abbey of L'Epau. It could be her, since there was no record of such a burial placement or official plaque.
note: when you google "Jeanne Langevine", one of the mentions says
1299-1319 - Jeanne Langevine, femme de Bertrand de Trullo, clerc, de la paroisse de Saint-Ouen, du Mans, Sarthe, considering that her dowry is in danger of being dissipated by her husband, and having the intention, if she becomes a widow, of never remarrying, gives, before the official of Mans, all that she possesses to the Abbey of L'Epau, upon condition of the provision, during her life, of her nourishment and maintenance [3 november 1314]
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Date: 3/14/18 12:26 am (UTC)(And some kings at least were supposed to have been buried with crowns. Like Henry II, according to some reports. Father-in-law of Berengaria).
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