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queensthiefChat transcript! I tried to post it in colour as Emerald suggested, and this would have worked - if I'd split it up into three posts. It was too big for LJ otherwise. The black and white transcript is therefore here, and the colour version should be available on the Conspiracy Room. Avian, Emerald, Willow, Lin, Leslie, Hebe, Dawn, Mariah, and myself all showed up. Actual on-topic talk below!
aged_crone: Hey. I can't remember how many lives the Gallefreyans are supposed to have...
Avian: chatzy is laggy. this is gonna be bad when everyone shows up for the chat...
emerald: so many f-list posts to catch up with!
Avian: LOL, Ro that's great. i bet the person in the frame shop looked at you like you were mad :P
Willow from x.x.x.59 joined the chat 34 minutes ago
aged_crone: Ro framed pictures of undies????
Avian: hello, Willow!
Willow: Hi.
emerald: Willow! yay!
Avian: how are you?
Willow: Pretty good. Typing stuff I wrote in Missouri.
Avian: HIM stand for Health and Information.... what?
Avian: i can't remember because that was last summer
aged_crone from x.x.x.98 joined the chat 29 minutes ago
aged_crone: Oh, boy, is Chatzy being uncooperative tonight.
Avian: do we have any topics to start off the chat?
emerald: i know *pokes chatzy*
Willow: The 4th book.
aged_crone: The Dregs of Frosties, you mean?
Willow: No! The real one.
emerald: The Annux
emerald: *?
aged_crone: I know - I just call it that in my mind until I know the real title.
Avian: lol
Willow: ... speaking of DoF, though, that conjures up a third image besides frosted flakes and chocolate milkshakes: a bunch of down-on-their-luck hard-living snowman mercenaries all gathered in a bar somewhere.
aged_crone: Would they go for "The Annux" at Greenwillow - nobody who hadn't read KoA would know what it was.
Avian: true
Willow: "Annux" reminds me of annex and narthex.
Avian: maybe a king of kings
aged_crone: I hope it's a well-air-conditioned bar!
Willow: Yes.
emerald: well people would buy the book to find out
Avian: brb. must get kitty out of the rain
aged_crone: I would pick it up to look at it, but I gather that publishers don't think that way; they want recognizable.
aged_crone: Hmmm. "The High King" is taken, by Lloyd Alexander...
Willow does not say anything about the King's Underwear
emerald does not say anything about bears
aged_crone: Good girl, Willow!
aged_crone: Good girl, Emerald!
emerald high fives Willow
Willow mutters about not being able to type
aged_crone: So if the king had two bears, and one of them was subordinate to the other, would that make it the King's Underbear?
Willow high fives emerald
Willow: ...
Willow facepalms
emerald: ...
Willow facekeyboards
Avian: Bad girl, Leslie :P
Willow faceworlds
aged_crone: :)
Willow calls the Pun Police
aged_crone feels that it is probably not necessary to point out that she is partial to puns
crazyviolin from x.x.x.78 joined the chat 23 minutes ago
Avian: hello!
aged_crone: Hi, Crazyviolin!
crazyviolin: hello
Willow: Hi, Crazyviolin! Swallow any liquids before backlogging!
crazyviolin: i remebered to come!
crazyviolin: what sor
Avian: please ask something to put us back on track
emerald: hello *offers tea and cookies*
Willow: Don't eat the cookies!!
crazyviolin: oh this is harder than i expected *takes
emerald: nsdlkghdfkvgjdfbvjmdb
crazyviolin: cookies* thank you
emerald: the cookies are fine. Philia and Rain eat them all the time
crazyviolin: thats reassuring
crazyviolin: il
Willow: Yeah, I mean, Philia and Rain are paragons of normalness.
aged_crone: I was putting KoA away in my library and had to open it and read the last few pages again. Gen kneeling before Irene, and finally accepting that he is king, and then touching her face gently, and saying: "I want my breakfast."
Avian: and not a track towards chaos :P
Avian: lag
Willow hearts chaos
crazyviolin: i wish i had a library
emerald offers library
aged_crone: Which made me giggle again. Attolia thinned her lips, or something like that. I wonder if at some point she will simply lose control and laugh like an idiot about Gen in public?
crazyviolin: *takes library* yay
aged_crone: My library was formerly a garage.
crazyviolin: i don't like attolia very much
Willow: Why not?
crazyviolin: please dont hurt me
aged_crone: Just convince whoever has a car parked in your garage that being outside is good for it.
Willow: We won't hurt you.
crazyviolin: but my garage is across the garden
Willow: Just duck the flying zucchini and avoid the squid and the alligators in the pool.
crazyviolin: because she hurt gen
Mariah from x.x.x.201 joined the chat 20 minutes ago
Willow: Hi Mariah!
aged_crone: Think colonnade, covered.
emerald: FLYING ZUCCHINIS!
Avian: MARIAH, WE MISSED YOU!
Willow: Long time no talk!
aged_crone: Hi, Mariah!
Mariah: Hi!
emerald: Hi Mariah! Long time no see
emerald: ...
crazyviolin: hiya
Willow: :P
aged_crone: She hurt Gen, but she's sorry. He forgave her, so I figure I can't hold a grudge.
emerald: okay, Willow just said that
crazyviolin: she's cold and nasty
emerald turns mindreading vibes off
Willow puts tin foil hat on
Mariah: I think that I need to read backlog
Mariah backlogs
emerald: tin foil will only conduct the vibes
crazyviolin: how does one change the colour of ones writing?
Willow: Er... crazyviolin, what should we call you for short? Crazy seems... yeah
Willow: Go to "My PreferenceS"
aged_crone: She's cold and nasty in public, though even that seems to be changing a bit.
Willow: Why do you think she's nasty and cold?
Willow: And how does this make you feel? Tell us about your childhood. ;-)
emerald: 'lin'?
aged_crone: Oh, for the writing, type /me and then whatever you want to say.
Willow: If we call her Lin, Jade will squeal over Tam Lin.
aged_crone: Fiddle?
crazyviolin: lolol, you could err.. call me vi i suppose. i actually hate playing the violn so its sort of i was crazy to start lessons
Willow: Vi? OK.
crazyviolin: ohh lin would be better
emerald: Jade squeals over lots of things. she is delightful in that way :P
Willow: Yeah, like the naked people at the end of KoA.
emerald leaves cookies for Jade :)
Willow said that just to made Jade squee when she backlogs
crazyviolin: that will be an awesome scene in the film
emerald: naked guys, more specifically
aged_crone: Is Jade planning to be here tonight?
Willow: OK, we'll call you Li then...
Willow: Lin*
emerald: heehee, it would make a fun scene
Willow: I dunno.
crazyviolin: okey dokey, it is a bit exhausting typing the full thing all the time
aged_crone: There goes the G rating...
Willow: \
crazyviolin: is that general?
Willow: Sorry.
Avian: what a free site like yousendit?
Willow: If it wasn't rated G (and hence not so much of a children's movie) could we include the 5-way marriage?
aged_crone: General - approved for all ages.
DawnBluewings from x.x.x.80 joined the chat 15 minutes ago
Willow: Hi Dawn!
crazyviolin: ah thanks
crazyviolin: hello
aged_crone: Hi, Dawn!
DawnBluewings: Hello..
crazyviolin: why stop at 5 anyway?
DawnBluewings is timid
Mariah: Hi Dawn!
aged_crone: Don't be timid. Just remember that most of us in here are raving mad, and feel superior.
Willow: Embrace your sanity!
emerald: did y'all find a name for the alligator?
DawnBluewings: Oh, I'm raving mad, too.
Willow: Embrace it very tightly, or you will lose it here.
aged_crone: I still like Allegra Alligator.
Willow: Oh, then that's no problem.
Willow: Em, I don't think we did.
crazyviolin: thats good
crazyviolin: what alligator?
emerald offers Dawn cookies
aged_crone: Or you could combine it to Allegrator.
Willow: Avian got us an alligator.
emerald: like cheese grator
emerald: sorry
Willow: :D
Willow: I was just thinking that!
Mariah: There's an alligator now? Where is it?
crazyviolin: that was nice of her
aged_crone: The one in the pool. (Hey, isn't Sylvester in there, too?)
Willow: I thought you turned the mind reader vibes off? :P
Willow: Yes, floating on a little pool floaty with sunglasses and a drink with a tiny little umbrella.
DawnBluewings: Allegrator sounds interesting.... (And I lost all my sanity many, many years ago.... )
aged_crone: Al au gratin
Willow: He's reading Cockroach Weekly.
aged_crone: Well, warn him about the alligator.
Willow: Allouette? (Or however you spell it)
crazyviolin: doesnt it get wet in the pool?
Mariah: I think that I need to come here more often! I'm so behind!
Willow: which?
aged_crone: Indeed, the alligator would be All wet, in the pool.
aged_crone: Allouette - Allwet.
emerald: Beware Leslie's puns. They are more deadly than the alligator
DawnBluewings: heeehe...
crazyviolin: no i mean cockroach weekly doesnt the ink run?
emerald: laminated pages :P
Mariah: It's a special edition
crazyviolin: no i mean cockroack weekly doesnt the ink run?
crazyviolin: oops
emerald: ???
Willow: He's holding it on the floaty, Lin.
DawnBluewings: Autofil is the EVIL....
emerald wonders if she is slow
crazyviolin: ignore that
crazyviolin: doesnt the alligator rip that apart?
Mariah: It's quasi-reality...anything is possible
Willow: Rip what apart?
crazyviolin: the floaty
Willow: It's a very pacific alligator.
aged_crone: Hey, a while back when people were submitting their pictures, I didn't. However, here's my fifth grade class picture: http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s78/aged_crone/Me5thgr.jpg
emerald: nope, the alligator has better things to do
Willow: No, Sylvester is the cockroach. He's the one on the floaty.
aged_crone: Atlantic, the Pacific Alligator.
crazyviolin: oh riiight
Willow: Wow, Leslie, that's a very pretty picture!
Willow: Atlantic the Pacific Alligator-- I like that.
aged_crone: I call it the Mona Leslie.
aged_crone: :)
crazyviolin: aww you were so cute
Willow: :D
aged_crone: I haven't much liked any pictures since that one!
DawnBluewings: (that's a good name)
Mariah: You haven't liked any pictures since fifth grade?
aged_crone: Of me.
aged_crone: More or less.
crazyviolin: i havent liked any pictures ever
Willow: I know how that goes.
emerald: you look very pretty! i recognise the colour of your hair and shape of your face from the photo of you in your cloak! aww
Hebe from x.x.x.211 joined the chat 6 minutes ago
Mariah: I like that picture, too. (So does my mom)
crazyviolin: hi!
Willow: Hey Hebe!
Hebe: Hi all
emerald: funnily enough, you look a lot like my other friend Leslie (same coloured hair, eyes and face shape is similar)
Mariah: Hi Hebe!
emerald: Hi Hebe!
aged_crone from x.x.x.98 joined the chat 3 minutes ago
aged_crone: Grrrrr - booted!
aged_crone: Hi, Hebe.
Mariah: Welcome back!
emerald glares at chatzy
crazyviolin: anybody read any good books lately then?
Willow: Yes!
aged_crone: My ninth grade one wasn't bad. My third grade one I made the mistake of smiling when they told me to, showing my third-grade snaggly teeth. I didn't smile again for a class picture till 11th grade!
emerald: Don't make me use WRATH on you, chatzy
Willow thinks
Avian: leslie, your picture is SO cute!
aged_crone: I have a Leslie twin?
crazyviolin: i read this really good one called the queen of attolia. anyone here read that one?
aged_crone: Hee hee!
emerald: lol, Lin
Willow: I've never smiled for pictures since I was very little. And I got my bookshelves set up! Good books-- These Old Shades (again), the Mary Russell books.
Hebe scrolls through backlog
aged_crone: I'm glad we got you hooked on Heyer.
emerald: Leslie, you only look alike as children. she looks much different now. you look a bit different too
aged_crone: The Conqueror is good. Also My Lord John. (William the Conqueror; John, brother of Henry V).
crazyviolin: i never smile for pictures. the photographer told me not to once. it probably scarred me for life.
crazyviolin: ooh who by?
aged_crone: Georgette Heyer.
Willow: Georgette Heye
Rowana from x.x.x.54 joined the chat 16 seconds ago
Mariah: I'm reading A Drowned Maiden's Hair now, and it's good so far
Willow: Heyer* Hey Ro!
aged_crone: Hi, Ro!
Avian: hello, everyone who came in since i was semi-kicked out
Mariah: Hi Ro!
crazyviolin: if anyone likes history raven queen by pauline francis is awesome. its about lady jane grey.
Rowana: Hey :)
crazyviolin: hiya
aged_crone: I can recommend Richard Coeur de lion: Kingship, Chivalry and War in the Twelfth Century.
Willow: I want mayonnaise.
aged_crone: I've never liked Jane Grey.
aged_crone: Though she's interesting.
Mariah: ???
crazyviolin: ive always felt sorry for her
Mariah: (Willow)
aged_crone: She shouldn't have tried to steal the throne.
crazyviolin: she didnt it wasnt her fault the king chose her as succesor
aged_crone hands Willow some mayonnaise, while wondering why...
Rowana: She was spared the first time wasn't she? Yes, it was all Northumberland?
Willow: And French fries, the big chunky ones restaurants serve. Leslie-- her father was surely a significant influence in that.
Willow: And then when she was in the Tower others rose on her behalf, and Mary had her executed then.
aged_crone: Snort. The king didn't do diddly - it was her greedy father-in-law.
crazyviolin: i dont evil queens like mary
Rowana: I thought it was her mother Willow?
aged_crone: Don't care. She should have had the guts to say no.
crazyviolin: like*
Willow makes a turkey and cheese and lettuce sandwich on toasted wheat bagel with mayonnaise and adds steak fries
aged_crone: Mary wasn't evil.
Willow: No, she wasn't.
crazyviolin: to the king? they would have killed her anyway
aged_crone drools at Willow's sandwich
Willow: But would it have mattered if Jane Grey had said no?
crazyviolin: she was deluded then
Willow makes a sandwich for LEslie
Willow and anyone who wants one
crazyviolin: yes because they didnt want catholics on the throne
aged_crone: She should have refused to try to take the throne. However, she was a nasty little bigot and didn't want Mary on the throne.
crazyviolin: no one else burnt so many in such a short space of time in english history
emerald: Hi Ro
Rowana: Not the king - Edward was king at the time and about twelve. I thought her father in law Northumberland planned it all.
Willow: Do we have any writings by Jane Grey?
crazyviolin: not many people did
aged_crone: Yes, it would have mattered if she had said "no." And Mary had the courage to defy her father and do what she believed was right; Jane could have done so.
Rowana: Lag!
crazyviolin: yes he did
Willow: Mary signed that oath eventually, though, didn't she?
Rowana: Hey Emerald
aged_crone: Take a look at the number of people Henry VIII and Elizabeth I executed. Mary was a rank amateur in comparison.
crazyviolin: she was much younger than mary
crazyviolin: not in 2 years though
Willow: Mary was a strong personality who had the support of much of the country behind her; Jane was a child surrounded by powerful manipulating men.
crazyviolin: well put
Rowana: Leslie - Mary was heir to the throne. And considering the history with her mother, maybe a little bit of an edge in terms of belief in what was right over Jane
aged_crone: She wasn't younger than Mary was when she first defied her father. (And, yes, after her mother died she gave up, poor girl).
crazyviolin: she shouldnt have beheaded jane though
Rowana: But Mary only had five years to execute all those people in
Rowana: Much less than Henry and Lizzie
Willow: So how does Mary become poor girl after her mother dies but Jane is weakwilled?
aged_crone: Henry executed several hundred people after the Pilgrimage of Grace, within a very short period of time.
Rowana: The same number Mary did?
Mariah is lost
DawnBluewings from x.x.x.80 joined the chat 14 minutes ago
Rowana: (Which was either 300 or 3000, can't remember which)
Rowana: Hi Mariah!
Willow: 300
aged_crone: Jane had committed treason and was a danger. Mary had tried being merciful, and ended up with a rebellion on her hands. Not Jane's fault, probably, but nonetheless.
Willow: Or 600ish.
aged_crone: Mary executed about 300.
DawnBluewings hates her internet connection....
crazyviolin: but even when she realised what she was doing was wrong and people were telling her to stop she still did it
crazyviolin: Mary still managed to sign two death warrants before she died
Rowana: Wasn't Jane a friend of Edward's? And she'd've had to resist marrying Guildford Dudley in the start to have stood a chance at not being forced into it all.
aged_crone: She didn't believe what she was doing was wrong.
aged_crone: (Mary, I mean).
Willow: Mary had the character fiber to refuse to give in to the husband she loved, to keep England out of foreign control.
Willow: Yes... but that's never an excuse.
crazyviolin: she realised it was causing rebellion and resentment
Rowana: That's true. Though we did end up going to war with France in the end. :P
aged_crone: Jane was his friend and his cousin. Her mother, Frances Brandon Grey, was the daughter of Henry VIII's sister, Mary.
crazyviolin: and she lost calais because of it
aged_crone: I wasn't making it an excuse, I was contradicting what Lin said.
Rowana: Yes. Which wasn't that much use anyway, but she did get upset about it.
aged_crone: It's all King John's fault. If he hadn't lost most of his French possessions, Calais wouldn't have been a lone outpost. :)
Rowana: I just realised Dawn joined the chat a while back. Hello Dawn!
crazyviolin: we agree on something !
Hebe ponders how many people Attolia may have had executed
Rowana: Didn't England still have control over one or two other areas around France during Henry VII's time which Henry VIII lost?
aged_crone: Her first husband, for one...
DawnBluewings: (hello, Ro. I was here before, but my internet died in my general direction.)
Rowana: From the description in QoA, it sounds like a fair number
Mariah: There were a bunch of barons, and then the guy who stole from the treasury
crazyviolin: ive got go now, film's started. thanks for an awesome history debate! (nothing better in the world!!)
Mariah: Ro- I can change color
Willow: Bye Lin!
Rowana: Mariah, it's okay, I'll change to red
crazyviolin: and were on topic:( bye!
aged_crone: I don't recall that Henry lost any... Hold on, I'll check... Katharine of Aragon was regent while he was at war in France...
Rowana: Bye :)
emerald: bye Lin
Willow: I saw a book in one of the airport bookstores about how the high point of Katherine's life was being regent then, and she got there by telling one of the "most audacious lies in English history." I didn't buy it.
DawnBluewings: au revoir
Rowana: It's just that I remember there being some other area we had during HII's time, and I can't think who else could've lost it, Leslie
Mariah: I already changes
Mariah: *changed
Mariah: Bye!
aged_crone: Bye, Lin.
DawnBluewings: Beretty gold....
Rowana: Oops, so did I
Hebe waves goodbye to 'lin
Rowana: I'll change back. :)
DawnBluewings: (*pretty)
aged_crone: I saw that same book in an airport store! It looked like utter drivel to me, and I gather the lie she supposedly told was about her first marriage - the idea in the book being that it was in fact consummated.
Rowana: Philipa Gregory, right?
Willow: It was with a bunch of other historical fiction books like Philippa Gregory-- and in another airport bookstore I saw that Alison Weir has two new books out!
Willow: Ro, I think it was by a guy.
Willow: Leslie, I agree. I don't think she lied.
Rowana: Ah, okay Willow. I don't think I've heard of it then. :)
Mariah: Wait. What are you talking about now?
aged_crone: No. She was a person of honor and integrity.
Hebe: Tudor executions a politics seem tid to religion (I'm no historian so this may be waaaay naive) but Sounisian, Eddisian, and Attolian not, even though they have separate gods
Willow: ... maybe it was Philippa Gregory.
Rowana: She was a Catholic. A very firm Catholic. I don't think she'd lie.
aged_crone: I thought the one I saw was by Philippa Gregory, but Icould be wrong.
Willow: Hebe, yes, I agree.
Hebe: a=and; tid=tied
Willow: Catholics do lie occasionally...
Rowana: Hebe, I found the bit about the invaders and Sophos's father's ideas about religion interesting
Willow: What did Sophos's father say about religion?
emerald: (someone remember to post the backlog)
Rowana: Perhaps they've had problems in the past, but don't anymore?
DawnBluewings: Catholics do lie, But probably not about something like that.
emerald: having two sets of gods is like having two kings. people don't know which to be loyal to
Rowana: Willow - about something as important as that? I just meant that she was incredibly religious, and since it was a religious matter...
Mariah: According to the Bible, Christians in general should not lie. However, just because you practice a particular religion does not mean that you will not do things contrary to your religon
emerald: or something like that, Willow
aged_crone: I liked that when Teleus recited the prayer to Hephestia, the weather changed - not quite as spectacularly as it did for Gen that one time, however.
emerald: my heart almost stopped reading that for the first time!
Willow: Ro, I know. I was just saying that just because someone's Catholic doesn't mean they're automatically completely honest.
Mariah: Emerald- that's right
Willow: Ah, ok.
aged_crone: I believe Katharine of Aragon because her whole record is of honesty and decency. I'm not denying that Catholics and other Christians sometimes lie, I'm just judging based on KofA's (Ha!) character.
Rowana: Willow, - I know too. Just didn't phrase myself very well. :)
emerald: lol, Leslie, KofA and KoA. how ironic
aged_crone: Mariah - say Hi to you mom for me. I owe her a letter!
emerald: (Gen and lying too, i mean)
Rowana: The bit about Eddis resisting religious change was interesting.
Willow: Leslie, I may have asked you this before, but what do you think about whether Anne Boleyn cheated on Henry?
Mariah: Leslie- I will.
Rowana: And Katherine Howard too, since they were both accused of the same thing?
aged_crone: That I don't know, but I suspect not. She would have had to be monumentally stupid, and I don't think she was. (I love Henry's sneaky way of having the marriage declared invalid on grounds of her precontract with Henry Percy; and still executing her for adultery. Hello, nitwit: No marriage, no adultery!
Mariah: Gen lies a lot, but he never lies about important things
aged_crone: Katherine Howard, I can believe. She does seem to have been rather a dim bulb, and her upbringing didn't help.
Hebe: Plans for changing Attolia back to the old gods sound very smooth - can't remember the details, but isn't there something about Attolians not being particularly bothered?
aged_crone: I don't remember the part about Eddis resisting... Oh, Eddis the country, not Eddis the Queen. Never mind!
Rowana: Yes - that seems to apply to most characters in the books, at least to begin with, regarding religion.
Willow: Leslie, I never noticed the precontract contradiction. But I believe she didn't cheat on him, either; she never confessed even at her last confession, when she had no reason to expect Henry would still pardon her.
aged_crone: The Attolians don't much believe in their gods, so it's no big deal to them.
emerald: Well, Costis must do because he promised 10 gold cups
Mariah: Are they totally changing over, though? I thought that they were going to have both gods
Rowana: I dunno, Costis seemed to genuinely believe.
Rowana: Oops, lag.
emerald: or maybe that was faith returning in extreme situations, as Attolia thought when she cut Gen's hand off
Mariah: I don't think that it's right for the government to tell you what to worship.
aged_crone: Yes, but I know there's a part in there where it says something about how little faith the Attolians have.
Hebe: Even if they don't believe much in their gods, they might still get annoyed by beign expected to believe in a different set
Rowana: But, unity in terms of religion is generally considered neccessary in that kind of state, isn't it?
Mariah: And in Sounis, although they have the 'new' Gods, they still use the 'old' gods to curse
aged_crone: Mariah - I don't, either, but that's a very modern concept.
Willow: (What about the Other Boleyn Girl?)
aged_crone: I'll bet the palace glaziers love the new gods.
Rowana: Otherwise you wouldn't have ended up with all the see-sawing during the Tudor period
emerald: yeah, they will have different festivals and stuff. the festivals just being an excuse to have a good time?
aged_crone: I didn't read The Other Boleyn Girl because it was by the same author who seemed to be doing such a hatchet job on Katharine, and butchering history in the process, so I figured, why bother?
Rowana: That sounds like most people (or most people I know), in real life though. I guess, they believe, but, not intensely.
Mariah: Why did Attolia look like Hephestia (sp?) when she believed in the 'new' gods? Would her people understand the reference?
Willow: that's what I was thinking, but it looks interesting. Less butchery perhaps.
aged_crone: But I recommend Norah Lofts' THE KING'S PLEASURE (Katharine of Aragon), and THE CONCUBINE (Anne Boleyn).
Rowana: I didn't think the Other Boleyn Girl was bad. Have you read it Willow?
Rowana: lag again. It's worth a read Willow, I think.
Hebe: So the glaziers may believe?
Mariah: Leslie- My mom said that you also owe her a recipe :-)
emerald: the old gods have prevailed despite the invaders bringing the new gods. they may not be believed in in Attolia, but they haven't been forgotten
aged_crone: Hephestia is one of the old gods, so I assume that the Attolians knew what her statues looked like (sort of like we recognize Athena by her helmet and breastplate).
Mariah: So then the crossover should be fairly smooth, right?
aged_crone: The glaziers must hope that Gen will irritate his gods more often! :)
aged_crone: Oooh, I do! I'm sorry! I'll send it!
Mariah: (I mean if they stil;l remember/sort-of believe in the old gods?)
aged_crone grovels to Peggy
Mariah: *still
Rowana: Willow - if you're interested in going back to the point where the Tudor line branches off, 'Katherine' about Katherine Swynford isn't bad.
Willow: I saw that one too, yes.
aged_crone: by Anya Seton. Good book.
emerald: it is a good book
Rowana: That's the one.
Willow: ... Mary Boleyn's granddaughter was second wife to the love (Robert Dudley) of Elizabeth I, Mary's niece.
Willow: Huh.
emerald: ?
emerald tries to work out links
Rowana: Didn't Elizabeth end up having Robert Dudley's nephew or son hanging around her by the end of her reign?
Willow: the Earl of Essex?
Rowana: Yes - I remember hearing that Willow
Rowana: She had an odd name
Willow: Lettice
Mariah: My mom gave you guys an assignment: Compare and Contrast the religion of the Attolia books and Tudor England
aged_crone: There, Mariah, the recipe's on its way.
Rowana: Lettice Knollys, something like that
Rowana: Yes, I think it was the Earl of Essex, Willow.
Philia from x.x.x.249 left this message 6 seconds ago:
Wow, I got called a paragon of normalness. I sure hope that was sarcastic.
Mariah: Hey, Philia
emerald: Philia! Just in time for the assignment!
Rowana: Hi Philia. :)
emerald: only kidding :P
Avian from x.x.x.20 joined the chat 12 seconds ago
emerald: Avian too! Wow, this chat sure has a big turnout
Avian: i was kicked out!
Mariah: Hey, Avian
Rowana is backlogging and has just found the 'kings underbear' joke
aged_crone from x.x.x.98 joined the chat
Avian backlogs
emerald: heeehee, lol
DawnBluewings from x.x.x.80 joined the chat
Philia from x.x.x.249 left this message 64 seconds ago:
Hi. I can't stay, so I'm resisting the urge to join and give my opinions on religion in Gen's world. Of course I have many opinions. Have you ever known me not to? It'll have to wait. Mother-in-law downstairs requires entertaining.
Mariah: Hi Dawn and Leslie!
aged_crone: GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Again, booted!
Rowana: Hi Leslie, hi Dawn, Hey Avian
aged_crone: And for Richard III, Rosemary Hawley Jarman's We Speak No Treason[\i] (actually, I recommend quite a few of her books)
emerald: darn, do an sounis post, Philia! you are good at sharing your knowledge that way
DawnBluewings reenters, singing "I hate my internet, it hates me, I hate my internet, it hates me!"
emerald offers tea and cookies
aged_crone: Rowana - did you recover from the Underbear?
Avian: my brother is very good at KILLING the internet
Rowana glares Dawn's internet connection into submission
aged_crone: Whoops, blew the end italics, didn't I.
Rowana: Leslie - just about. I hope the pun police gave you a good talking to.
aged_crone: :)
aged_crone: For Montrose, Rupert and their times, Margaret Irwin's THE PROUD SERVANT, THE STRANGER PRINCE, THE BRIDE, and ROYAL FLUSH
aged_crone: For Charles II's escape after Worcester, Georgette Heyer's ROYAL ESCAPE
Rowana: I'm up to the bit about Jade squeeing over the naked scene at the end of KoA
Rowana: (tee hee)
aged_crone sneers at italics and tells them I can get along without them
Rowana: It's not entirely historical, but if you're going on a historical fiction kick, read 'King of the Shadows' by Susan Cooper
aged_crone: Sheesh - naked scene, WNS: no wonder you all are considered reprobates!
Mariah: That happened ages ago, though
aged_crone: Is that the Shakespeare one?
emerald: Leslie, don't forget bears, the 5 way marriage and the whole ogling Costis thing
Mariah: I really like King of Shadows!
Hebe coughs
aged_crone: Mariah - what happened ages ago?
Mariah: Yes, it is
aged_crone: Emerald - I was trying to, really I was!
Mariah: Jade squeeing over the end of KoA
Willow from x.x.x.59 joined the chat 7 seconds ago
Rowana: Yes, that's the Shakespeare one Leslie
Willow: Garg, I got lagged/kicked out.
Mariah: Because that was when I was doing my book report
aged_crone: In this room people have loooooong memories.
Mariah: Hey Willow
Avian: no, it was mentioned at the beginning of the chat
Willow: Who was it that Checkers said could hit her with a riding crop any times? Sam someone.
Avian: i am up to... when Mariah entered
Willow: Neil?
Mariah: It was only rementioned, though.
emerald: LOL WILLOW
Willow: Yeah. Neill.
emerald: Sam Neill
aged_crone: I started a bibliography of fiction involving children who run away and join Shakespeare's company. There are quite a number of them! I ran across King of Shadows then, but didn't read it.
Willow: Leslie, that rings a bell...
Willow backlogs in her brain
Mariah: I remember that...but wasn't that before the backlog was deleted?
DawnBluewings: On a complete random, does anyone here draw?
aged_crone: I should write a story in which Shakespeare looks around in bewilderment, wondering why in heck the place is crawling with kids, several of them girls disguised as boys, all members of his company.
Avian: i do :)
Mariah: Avian does
DawnBluewings: Sorry, I'm known for total, utter randoms.
Willow: A boy who ran away, and his father disowned him, and he ended up coming back with a newly-orphaned girl, and his parents took both of them in again...
Willow: And Shakespeare was involved. Any bells, anyone?
Mariah crawls out of Avian's head
aged_crone: Marchette Chute.
emerald: what was in the deleted backlog, mariah?
Hebe: girls disguised as boys disguised as girls...
aged_crone: Is the author.
Willow: ... wow.
Willow is awed by Leslie's awesomeness
Rowana: Dawn - I don't. Erm, Emerald makes awesome dolls.
aged_crone: I think - I may be mixing two books together.
Mariah: Checkers and the riding crop
DawnBluewings: I nknow, I'v seen ^^
emerald: its on the main casting thread - see actors tag, Mariah
aged_crone: The Wonderful Winter is the one by Chute where Shakespeare's involved.
DawnBluewings: Grawr, lag!
Willow: ... Master Skylark.
Hebe: I think Cue for Treason was the first such book I read
emerald: i will find it for you
Avian: how do i look in pink?
aged_crone: Oh, of cours.
Rowana: Cue for Treason! I was trying to think of the name
aged_crone: *course
Mariah: I think that I read it.
Rowana: I think that was the first such book I read too
emerald: oh, i don't draw BTW. or not very well, anyway
emerald: http://community.livejournal.com/sounis/12280.html#cutid1 its on here, somewhere
Rowana: Bye Geoffrey Something?
Hebe: Trease
Mariah: what is?
Rowana: Or involving a Geoffrey someone?
aged_crone: They all start to blur together!
Rowana: That was it. :) Thanks Hebe.
emerald: On casting for the Magus. Fabricalchemist: No way, dude. Sam Neill totally means business and would smack anyone with a riding crop. Especially dinosaurs. Checkers: Perfect! Ian McKellan is too old. Sam Neill=Just right. And he can smack me with a riding crop any day. :)
Hebe: The two main character play a small part in a Civil War (UK) set sequel
Rowana: Y'know, I think we mentioned that comment of Checkers' in the last chat too
emerald: Checkers: Yikes! I didn't really SAY that, did I? I just THOUGHT it. Rowana: You said it Checkers. We'll never let you forget it. ;)
aged_crone: I need to dig out the bibliography I came up with.
emerald: ...and forget it, we never did. amen
Rowana: As I recall, she said something about being happy to provide amusement for everyone.
aged_crone from x.x.x.98 left this message 2 seconds ago:
Have you all seen this?
The Washington Post Style Invitational contest asked readers to submit
"instructions" for something (anything), written in the style of a famous
person . . The winning entry was The Hokey Pokey (as written by W.
Shakespeare) . . .
O proud left foot, that ventures quick within
Then soon upon a backward journey lithe.
Anon, once more the gesture, then begin:
Command sinistral pedestal to writhe.
Commence thou then the fervid Hokey-Poke,
A mad gyration, hips in wanton swirl.
To spin! A wilde release from Heavens yoke.
Blessed dervish! Surely canst go, girl.
The Hoke, the poke -- banish now thy doubt.
Verily, I say, 'tis what it's all about.
-- by William Shakespeare (Jeff Brechlin, Potomac Falls)
Willow: LOL
Mariah: Nope
emerald: I thought she said that about the calling Megan weird thing. Was it just generally?
Willow: ... apparently Master Skylark was a vintage book. too bad my copy burned.
Hebe: A breakthough moment for me when I realised (age 9 or whatever) that someone alive in Elizabeth's reign could still have been alive for the Civil War, and that history kinda merges in on itself rather than beign completely discrete sections
Willow: Yes!
Willow: That's a hard thought to swallow sometimes.
Rowana: Lol, Leslie
emerald: Hebe, i never thought of that before. *headdesks*
Willow makes quasi-reality milkshakes
Willow washes down her sandwich and fries
aged_crone: Willow - it's widely available, apparently. Prices not bad, either. By John Bennett. Just go to www.bookfinder.com
Willow: It's on Gutenberg too. :-)
aged_crone: What's hard for me to wrap my mind around is that Laura Ingalls Wilder, she of frontier life and covered wagons, lived well into the age of flight.
Willow: ... cool.
Willow: I need to replace the Little House books!
Mariah: She did?
emerald: wow
DawnBluewings: Yup.
Mariah: I guess that when we only do American History, we miss the connections in the rest of the world
DawnBluewings: For some rearson I never could get into those books...
emerald: ditto, British history and for the last 5 years, no history
aged_crone: LIW died in 1957. Two world wars, airplanes... Only a decade or so short of the moon landing.
Mariah: Why haven't you done history for five years?
Rowana: Yes, it's nice studying History in terms of lots of different countries
emerald: you give up subjects at certain points in school
Hebe: When was she born?
Mariah: What did you take instead?
Rowana: Five years Emerald? I thought you had to keep it till Year 9?
emerald: i was never any good at history (can't write the essays very well) so i gave it up
aged_crone: Most of my history I got outside of school, just from reading books.
emerald: ack, 4 years
Mariah: I think that history is pretty much required for us through high school
Rowana: And wow, I just realised it's been four years since Year 9. I feel old.
aged_crone: She was born in 1867.
Hebe: ta
aged_crone: No prob.
aged_crone: The Little House books always make me hungry.
Mariah: She was 90 when she died? I thought that she died younger?
aged_crone: (I have the Little House cookbook; it's got some great recipes).
emerald: (we have to do maths, sciences and english language and literature until the last 2 years of high school though)
Mariah: hungry?
Mariah: nevermind
aged_crone: No, she was nearly 90.
Mariah: Oh.
aged_crone: They're always eating something that sounds fabulous. (Especially the Wilders in Farmer Boy). Even *bear* sounds appetizing in those books!
emerald: LOL
Hebe: Seems so recent... now I spend so much time on genealogy research I think of that sort of time as "modern" because of the ease of getting census data and certificates and soforth (at least in the UK)
Avian: i'm glad i didn't have the chance to drop anything... i would have dropped science which would have been bad
emerald: Don't. Eat. The. Dancing. Bear
Willow throws herself between Leslie and the Dancing Bear
Mariah: Bear?
emerald: nice, the mind reading still works
Mariah: Ewww!
Hebe laughs
emerald offers Willow special cookies
Willow declines cookies with polite thanks
aged_crone: Hey, I said it sounded appetizing in the book, not that I was dashing out to find one to cook!
DawnBluewings: Supposedly bear tastes like sweeter pork.
Willow looks at Leslie suspiciously
Avian: you must not have gotten to the alligator gumbo part of the backlog yet :P
Mariah: Well, you know...just in case
Rowana notes that this is probably not making the dancing bear feel any better
emerald: Leslie, here's a question for you: would you rather eat the dancing bear or join the dancing bear in 5 way marriage?
Rowana: And yes, he can understand us. This is quasi reality.
Rowana: ...
Willow: ...
Willow flees
aged_crone refuses to enter the warped reality that is your Doomfic
aged_crone is normal.
Rowana casts around for subject change
Willow: Hey! Don't sully the doomfic with those implications!
aged_crone is sane.
Willow chokes at the suggestion that Leslie is normal and sane
Willow hands emerald the reprobate badge
Rowana: Hey, Leslie is meant to be our token sane person
emerald: the warped reality is a doomfic OF a doomfic.
Mariah: Leslie...sane?
Rowana: Though, yeah, good point Willow
aged_crone preens herself on her sanity and normality.
Hebe: At school I gave up history and geography and took economics instead... because the history syllabus looked depressing and dull! Ah, so naive about economics...
Willow throws herself between emerald and the doomfic
emerald: which makes original doomfic more like reality in comparison
emerald has already sprinkled cooki crumbs on the doomfic
emerald: *cookie
Rowana: (I never said anything about normal)
Willow brushes off the doomfic
Mariah is confused
Rowana: Eek, Economics looks horrific
Willow: Jade, we owe Rowana doomfic and it's overdue!!
emerald: Hebe - you'll learn! I only started doing economics 2 years ago and i'm doing it at uni next year
emerald: DOOMFIC
DawnBluewings from x.x.x.80 joined the chat
Rowana: That's okay Willow, you guys can take your time
aged_crone: Welcome back, Dawn.
Avian: leslie gave up her sanity a LONG time ago :P
DawnBluewings reenters, singing "I hate my internet, it hates me, I hate my internet, it hates me!" again
Rowana: Hello again Dawn. :)
emerald: oh, Willow has already said that.
Hebe: emerald- rather you than me! I dropped it after two years.
Avian: lag!
Rowana tries glaring at Dawn's connection again but realises that this probably won't work
emerald: I am spending the whole of this evening 2 moments behind Willow
Willow: Ro-- shhhhhh!! Don't give us an excuse to procrastinate.
Rowana suggests stroking the modem menacingly
Willow makes Dawn a new connection out of duct tape
Willow: It's the latest tech wave. ;-)
emerald: I bet Willow thought of the whole bears thing first too :P
Rowana: I'm sorry, are we meant to be poking Jade?
Rowana is a little slow on the uptake
DawnBluewings: Duct tape- The Handyman's secret weapon!
Rowana: Doomfic!
Hebe: ductTape 2.0
Rowana: Oops, Doomfic works better
Willow: What?? No! Don't blame the bears on me!!!!!!!!!!!
emerald: For those who think we are normal: http://community.livejournal.com/sounis/38116.html
Willow: We're poking Jade and me.
Willow flees the poking
aged_crone: Duct tape: Like the Force, it has a dark side and a light side and it binds the galaxies together
Rowana gets out a very long stick
emerald does not know who to flee; runs around in circles
emerald: Leslie, unlike the Force, you can make cookies out of it
emerald: OOPS
Willow: ...
emerald: there goes the 'secret' in secret ingredient
Rowana smiles at underwear bearing the words GUT on the wall
emerald: LOL
Rowana: Just clicked on your link Emerald. :)
emerald: Hebe, Dawn! The Link will solve All Your Problems
Hebe: Earlier today I was googling to fidn the diiference between goat and sheep wool
emerald: haha, you should print that out Ro and pin it to the pants
Hebe apologies for the bad typing
Hebe: and thought of you lot
Willow: To quote Thnidu-- "To ruminate is not simply to chew, but to chew the cud. Which means they would have to chew the underwear, swallow it, let it digest partially, and then bring it up again to chew it some more and swallow it into a different stomach. Or something like that."
Rowana: lol, Emerald
DawnBluewings: Goat is more coarse, harder to spin. Shorter fibers, generally.
Willow: Hey, I remember when Emerald didn't have an LJ!
emerald: hahahahah
Avian: so do i :)
emerald: I Came Over to the Dark Side
Mariah: Emerald- I think that I read that before...was it posted here before?
Rowana: Avian, pink suits you. :)
Hebe: (most sites said goat was hair and not wool. I decided to write it in as sheep after all)
Avian: good. olive looked strange
emerald: olive reminds me of Jade
emerald: wait, she calls it 'gold'
emerald: forget i said anything, Jade
Mariah: It was gold before
DawnBluewings: (Yes. It's sheep WOOL, goat HAIR.)
Mariah: It changed to olive fairly in the lst two months
Mariah: *skip the fairly :-)
emerald: gold-olive-Gen eats olives
emerald: -=train of thoughts
Avian: black or green olives?
emerald: GREEN!
Avian: ick
emerald: i like the colour
Avian: ah
emerald: but black probably tastes better
Avian: yes
DawnBluewings: Green olives are unripe, so black tastes better.
emerald: we'll see when we go to Greece
Avian: yes, but the resturants always use green in salads :(
Willow: Gen throws olives?
Rowana: Black always seems more sour
Willow: I bet he spits the pits at people as a child.
Willow: Do the Eddisians have watermelon, do you think?
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emerald: from above, hanging off a balcony
Willow: What do y'all think about another question letter to Ms. Turner? Hey Leslie!
emerald: imported from sounis
aged_crone: Booted for the third time! We must really be generating backlog.
Rowana: I'm sure he does Willow - I think they may
emerald: Gen mentions sounis having watermelons the size of his head
Rowana: I think that's a good idea Willow, I remember thinking about it a while ago, but I wasn't sure we'd be able to come up with enough questions
aged_crone: Greek olives that are dried are YUMMY!
emerald: ...and that he must have got out of prison later than he expected
Rowana: Crap that, enough questions which have a reasonable chance of being answered.
Rowana: And oops, that should've been SCRAP that. Sorry, anyone lurking who happens to be under 14.
emerald: Willow, that's a good idea.
Willow rubs her burning eyes
Willow: at the sight of Ro's slip :P
aged_crone: "Ms. Turner: Have you hired security guards since you realized that your fans, with certain honorable exceptions **kofflesliekoff**, are raving lunatics?"
Hebe: Do the lurkers have to crawl above the fake ceiling, or do they skulk in the shadows?
emerald: i bet she chooses Costis lookalike security guards *swoons*
emerald: only kidding :P
Rowana: I'm sorry. I'm getting a little deja vu here, I think i've done this before.
DawnBluewings: We lurkers sit on the rafters above the cieling....
Willow: ... If I excerpted those three lines (Leslie, Hebe, Emerald) it would be a perfect picture of Sounis madness.
Willow: We three lurkers of Sounis are...
emerald: maybe we should send them to her
Rowana: "Dear Megan, pleaaaase, pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease with cherries on top will you tell us what happened on the wedding night?"
Willow: Bearing binoculars we brought from afar...
Willow: :D :D :D
Avian: lol
Willow likes Ro's idea
Avian: to both!
Willow: If I didn't think it would be annoying, I would suggest that we all write her individually about the WNS.
emerald: PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE
aged_crone: Rowana! What a shocking question!
Avian: wns?
aged_crone: :)
Willow: Wedding Night Scene.
Avian: oh, right
Avian: we could all right individually and send it in one
Rowana: It's never going to happen. Slush pile and all that.
emerald: to be honest, im more bothered about what happens to Sophos
Avian: write*
Hebe: I'm not lurking in the ceiling untilI get rid of this flu-like bug - my coughs would really give the game away!
emerald: WNS has happened. so. there. *leaves cookies on the rafters for lurkers*
Rowana: I think we all are Emerald. And the Medes and all, actually.
aged_crone: "Ms. Turner: Can you please tell us a)of what material the inkpot that Attolia flung at Gen on the wedding night was made, and b)the color of the ink that it contained?"
Willow: ...
DawnBluewings: That's okay, the rest of can hoot like owls to cover it up.
emerald: what colour is Costis's hair
Willow: Dark?
emerald: that's what i want to know
DawnBluewings wonders that also
Rowana: "c)Why exactly they cried, d) in detail, (with much description of facial expression), exactly what was said"
Rowana: Though I guess she's answered c already
emerald: and what does the guard uniform look like? (doll for Jade, kinda thing)
Mariah: Emerald- What color is Aris' hair?
Avian: and how do attolia and costis behave when drunk? :P
Hebe: twooo-cough-twooo
Rowana: What on earth is Gen planning for Costis in the next book? I want to know that.
aged_crone: Will Eddis and any members of her court be likely to visit the court at Attolia at any time?
Rowana: Maybe the rest of us should hoot Hebe? You can, er, smother your coughs.
aged_crone: Will Gen publicly insist that Eddis go and change into something less unbecoming?
Rowana: Which would probably turn them into hiccups, so maybe not.
Hebe: I'd like to know.... why my entire screen just went bold italics
Rowana: Leslie - a scene like that would make my month
Avian: weird
emerald: (whoever does the chat transcript: ctrl+v to paste the backlog keeps it in colour)
Avian: to the bold/italics
Willow: Is Irene pregnant?
Mariah: I think that Gen will make Costis into the Thief of Attolia
Rowana: I'm doing it, thanks Emerald, I'll try that
Avian: who is doing the backlog?
Willow: Mariah, that's brilliant.
Rowana: But it won't keep its colour on the LJ post
Avian: WHERE IS SOPHOS
Rowana: Mariah - wow. I wonder what Costis would make of that
aged_crone: Will Stenides visit the court of Attolia, causing maidens to swoon over his bicepts?
aged_crone: *biceps
Rowana has a mental image of Costis sobbing
Avian: it would require a lot of training...
Rowana: When is Stenides actually going to be mentioned in the books?
Willow: The thieving or the swooning?
aged_crone: Isn't Costis a bit old to be training for thieving?
Hebe: Will Eddis and the Magus fall in lurve?
Rowana: I mean, not mentioned. Actually appear.
Willow: brb
Mariah: But he trusts Costis. My mom disagrees with me...but I don't remember what she thinks
Rowana: Hebe - I thought that for a while, but now i'm going with the 'just friends' theory
Mariah: Hebe- NO! I think that they're just friends
Rowana: I read 'Hard Times' a while ago, and am still squicked out by marriages which aren't a close enough match in terms of age.
Avian: because we want SOPHOS to marry her :)
DawnBluewings: Hoo-hoOo, hoo-hoOo
Hebe: Aw, but they're sweet together.
aged_crone: Because the books seem to be filled with cradle-robbing Queens.
Avian: true
Rowana: Yes! Is Sophos actually hiding out with bears somewhere, as was one theory?
Mariah: Friends sweet!
Avian: but they are my second choice still
aged_crone: Goodness, it's pushing midnight!
Hebe: [The conspirators look around, puzzled. "Flippin' owls get everywhere," mutters the mean looking figure in eth shadows.]
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Mariah: What ever happened to Sophos? I mean, he just cannot be dead!
aged_crone: I must away!
Rowana: Well...he could be
Hebe: pumpkin time?
Avian: bye, Leslie!
Mariah: Bye, Leslie!
Rowana: But he won't be!
Rowana: Bye Leslie
emerald: i have to go too. Bye
aged_crone: Farewell, my reprobatish friends!
aged_crone from x.x.x.98 left the chat
Hebe: night to those leaving
Rowana: Bye Emerald
emerald from x.x.x.103 left the chat 3 minutes ago
aged_crone: Hey. I can't remember how many lives the Gallefreyans are supposed to have...
Avian: chatzy is laggy. this is gonna be bad when everyone shows up for the chat...
emerald: so many f-list posts to catch up with!
Avian: LOL, Ro that's great. i bet the person in the frame shop looked at you like you were mad :P
Willow from x.x.x.59 joined the chat 34 minutes ago
aged_crone: Ro framed pictures of undies????
Avian: hello, Willow!
Willow: Hi.
emerald: Willow! yay!
Avian: how are you?
Willow: Pretty good. Typing stuff I wrote in Missouri.
Avian: HIM stand for Health and Information.... what?
Avian: i can't remember because that was last summer
aged_crone from x.x.x.98 joined the chat 29 minutes ago
aged_crone: Oh, boy, is Chatzy being uncooperative tonight.
Avian: do we have any topics to start off the chat?
emerald: i know *pokes chatzy*
Willow: The 4th book.
aged_crone: The Dregs of Frosties, you mean?
Willow: No! The real one.
emerald: The Annux
emerald: *?
aged_crone: I know - I just call it that in my mind until I know the real title.
Avian: lol
Willow: ... speaking of DoF, though, that conjures up a third image besides frosted flakes and chocolate milkshakes: a bunch of down-on-their-luck hard-living snowman mercenaries all gathered in a bar somewhere.
aged_crone: Would they go for "The Annux" at Greenwillow - nobody who hadn't read KoA would know what it was.
Avian: true
Willow: "Annux" reminds me of annex and narthex.
Avian: maybe a king of kings
aged_crone: I hope it's a well-air-conditioned bar!
Willow: Yes.
emerald: well people would buy the book to find out
Avian: brb. must get kitty out of the rain
aged_crone: I would pick it up to look at it, but I gather that publishers don't think that way; they want recognizable.
aged_crone: Hmmm. "The High King" is taken, by Lloyd Alexander...
Willow does not say anything about the King's Underwear
emerald does not say anything about bears
aged_crone: Good girl, Willow!
aged_crone: Good girl, Emerald!
emerald high fives Willow
Willow mutters about not being able to type
aged_crone: So if the king had two bears, and one of them was subordinate to the other, would that make it the King's Underbear?
Willow high fives emerald
Willow: ...
Willow facepalms
emerald: ...
Willow facekeyboards
Avian: Bad girl, Leslie :P
Willow faceworlds
aged_crone: :)
Willow calls the Pun Police
aged_crone feels that it is probably not necessary to point out that she is partial to puns
crazyviolin from x.x.x.78 joined the chat 23 minutes ago
Avian: hello!
aged_crone: Hi, Crazyviolin!
crazyviolin: hello
Willow: Hi, Crazyviolin! Swallow any liquids before backlogging!
crazyviolin: i remebered to come!
crazyviolin: what sor
Avian: please ask something to put us back on track
emerald: hello *offers tea and cookies*
Willow: Don't eat the cookies!!
crazyviolin: oh this is harder than i expected *takes
emerald: nsdlkghdfkvgjdfbvjmdb
crazyviolin: cookies* thank you
emerald: the cookies are fine. Philia and Rain eat them all the time
crazyviolin: thats reassuring
crazyviolin: il
Willow: Yeah, I mean, Philia and Rain are paragons of normalness.
aged_crone: I was putting KoA away in my library and had to open it and read the last few pages again. Gen kneeling before Irene, and finally accepting that he is king, and then touching her face gently, and saying: "I want my breakfast."
Avian: and not a track towards chaos :P
Avian: lag
Willow hearts chaos
crazyviolin: i wish i had a library
emerald offers library
aged_crone: Which made me giggle again. Attolia thinned her lips, or something like that. I wonder if at some point she will simply lose control and laugh like an idiot about Gen in public?
crazyviolin: *takes library* yay
aged_crone: My library was formerly a garage.
crazyviolin: i don't like attolia very much
Willow: Why not?
crazyviolin: please dont hurt me
aged_crone: Just convince whoever has a car parked in your garage that being outside is good for it.
Willow: We won't hurt you.
crazyviolin: but my garage is across the garden
Willow: Just duck the flying zucchini and avoid the squid and the alligators in the pool.
crazyviolin: because she hurt gen
Mariah from x.x.x.201 joined the chat 20 minutes ago
Willow: Hi Mariah!
aged_crone: Think colonnade, covered.
emerald: FLYING ZUCCHINIS!
Avian: MARIAH, WE MISSED YOU!
Willow: Long time no talk!
aged_crone: Hi, Mariah!
Mariah: Hi!
emerald: Hi Mariah! Long time no see
emerald: ...
crazyviolin: hiya
Willow: :P
aged_crone: She hurt Gen, but she's sorry. He forgave her, so I figure I can't hold a grudge.
emerald: okay, Willow just said that
crazyviolin: she's cold and nasty
emerald turns mindreading vibes off
Willow puts tin foil hat on
Mariah: I think that I need to read backlog
Mariah backlogs
emerald: tin foil will only conduct the vibes
crazyviolin: how does one change the colour of ones writing?
Willow: Er... crazyviolin, what should we call you for short? Crazy seems... yeah
Willow: Go to "My PreferenceS"
aged_crone: She's cold and nasty in public, though even that seems to be changing a bit.
Willow: Why do you think she's nasty and cold?
Willow: And how does this make you feel? Tell us about your childhood. ;-)
emerald: 'lin'?
aged_crone: Oh, for the writing, type /me and then whatever you want to say.
Willow: If we call her Lin, Jade will squeal over Tam Lin.
aged_crone: Fiddle?
crazyviolin: lolol, you could err.. call me vi i suppose. i actually hate playing the violn so its sort of i was crazy to start lessons
Willow: Vi? OK.
crazyviolin: ohh lin would be better
emerald: Jade squeals over lots of things. she is delightful in that way :P
Willow: Yeah, like the naked people at the end of KoA.
emerald leaves cookies for Jade :)
Willow said that just to made Jade squee when she backlogs
crazyviolin: that will be an awesome scene in the film
emerald: naked guys, more specifically
aged_crone: Is Jade planning to be here tonight?
Willow: OK, we'll call you Li then...
Willow: Lin*
emerald: heehee, it would make a fun scene
Willow: I dunno.
crazyviolin: okey dokey, it is a bit exhausting typing the full thing all the time
aged_crone: There goes the G rating...
Willow: \
crazyviolin: is that general?
Willow: Sorry.
Avian: what a free site like yousendit?
Willow: If it wasn't rated G (and hence not so much of a children's movie) could we include the 5-way marriage?
aged_crone: General - approved for all ages.
DawnBluewings from x.x.x.80 joined the chat 15 minutes ago
Willow: Hi Dawn!
crazyviolin: ah thanks
crazyviolin: hello
aged_crone: Hi, Dawn!
DawnBluewings: Hello..
crazyviolin: why stop at 5 anyway?
DawnBluewings is timid
Mariah: Hi Dawn!
aged_crone: Don't be timid. Just remember that most of us in here are raving mad, and feel superior.
Willow: Embrace your sanity!
emerald: did y'all find a name for the alligator?
DawnBluewings: Oh, I'm raving mad, too.
Willow: Embrace it very tightly, or you will lose it here.
aged_crone: I still like Allegra Alligator.
Willow: Oh, then that's no problem.
Willow: Em, I don't think we did.
crazyviolin: thats good
crazyviolin: what alligator?
emerald offers Dawn cookies
aged_crone: Or you could combine it to Allegrator.
Willow: Avian got us an alligator.
emerald: like cheese grator
emerald: sorry
Willow: :D
Willow: I was just thinking that!
Mariah: There's an alligator now? Where is it?
crazyviolin: that was nice of her
aged_crone: The one in the pool. (Hey, isn't Sylvester in there, too?)
Willow: I thought you turned the mind reader vibes off? :P
Willow: Yes, floating on a little pool floaty with sunglasses and a drink with a tiny little umbrella.
DawnBluewings: Allegrator sounds interesting.... (And I lost all my sanity many, many years ago.... )
aged_crone: Al au gratin
Willow: He's reading Cockroach Weekly.
aged_crone: Well, warn him about the alligator.
Willow: Allouette? (Or however you spell it)
crazyviolin: doesnt it get wet in the pool?
Mariah: I think that I need to come here more often! I'm so behind!
Willow: which?
aged_crone: Indeed, the alligator would be All wet, in the pool.
aged_crone: Allouette - Allwet.
emerald: Beware Leslie's puns. They are more deadly than the alligator
DawnBluewings: heeehe...
crazyviolin: no i mean cockroach weekly doesnt the ink run?
emerald: laminated pages :P
Mariah: It's a special edition
crazyviolin: no i mean cockroack weekly doesnt the ink run?
crazyviolin: oops
emerald: ???
Willow: He's holding it on the floaty, Lin.
DawnBluewings: Autofil is the EVIL....
emerald wonders if she is slow
crazyviolin: ignore that
crazyviolin: doesnt the alligator rip that apart?
Mariah: It's quasi-reality...anything is possible
Willow: Rip what apart?
crazyviolin: the floaty
Willow: It's a very pacific alligator.
aged_crone: Hey, a while back when people were submitting their pictures, I didn't. However, here's my fifth grade class picture: http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s78/aged_crone/Me5thgr.jpg
emerald: nope, the alligator has better things to do
Willow: No, Sylvester is the cockroach. He's the one on the floaty.
aged_crone: Atlantic, the Pacific Alligator.
crazyviolin: oh riiight
Willow: Wow, Leslie, that's a very pretty picture!
Willow: Atlantic the Pacific Alligator-- I like that.
aged_crone: I call it the Mona Leslie.
aged_crone: :)
crazyviolin: aww you were so cute
Willow: :D
aged_crone: I haven't much liked any pictures since that one!
DawnBluewings: (that's a good name)
Mariah: You haven't liked any pictures since fifth grade?
aged_crone: Of me.
aged_crone: More or less.
crazyviolin: i havent liked any pictures ever
Willow: I know how that goes.
emerald: you look very pretty! i recognise the colour of your hair and shape of your face from the photo of you in your cloak! aww
Hebe from x.x.x.211 joined the chat 6 minutes ago
Mariah: I like that picture, too. (So does my mom)
crazyviolin: hi!
Willow: Hey Hebe!
Hebe: Hi all
emerald: funnily enough, you look a lot like my other friend Leslie (same coloured hair, eyes and face shape is similar)
Mariah: Hi Hebe!
emerald: Hi Hebe!
aged_crone from x.x.x.98 joined the chat 3 minutes ago
aged_crone: Grrrrr - booted!
aged_crone: Hi, Hebe.
Mariah: Welcome back!
emerald glares at chatzy
crazyviolin: anybody read any good books lately then?
Willow: Yes!
aged_crone: My ninth grade one wasn't bad. My third grade one I made the mistake of smiling when they told me to, showing my third-grade snaggly teeth. I didn't smile again for a class picture till 11th grade!
emerald: Don't make me use WRATH on you, chatzy
Willow thinks
Avian: leslie, your picture is SO cute!
aged_crone: I have a Leslie twin?
crazyviolin: i read this really good one called the queen of attolia. anyone here read that one?
aged_crone: Hee hee!
emerald: lol, Lin
Willow: I've never smiled for pictures since I was very little. And I got my bookshelves set up! Good books-- These Old Shades (again), the Mary Russell books.
Hebe scrolls through backlog
aged_crone: I'm glad we got you hooked on Heyer.
emerald: Leslie, you only look alike as children. she looks much different now. you look a bit different too
aged_crone: The Conqueror is good. Also My Lord John. (William the Conqueror; John, brother of Henry V).
crazyviolin: i never smile for pictures. the photographer told me not to once. it probably scarred me for life.
crazyviolin: ooh who by?
aged_crone: Georgette Heyer.
Willow: Georgette Heye
Rowana from x.x.x.54 joined the chat 16 seconds ago
Mariah: I'm reading A Drowned Maiden's Hair now, and it's good so far
Willow: Heyer* Hey Ro!
aged_crone: Hi, Ro!
Avian: hello, everyone who came in since i was semi-kicked out
Mariah: Hi Ro!
crazyviolin: if anyone likes history raven queen by pauline francis is awesome. its about lady jane grey.
Rowana: Hey :)
crazyviolin: hiya
aged_crone: I can recommend Richard Coeur de lion: Kingship, Chivalry and War in the Twelfth Century.
Willow: I want mayonnaise.
aged_crone: I've never liked Jane Grey.
aged_crone: Though she's interesting.
Mariah: ???
crazyviolin: ive always felt sorry for her
Mariah: (Willow)
aged_crone: She shouldn't have tried to steal the throne.
crazyviolin: she didnt it wasnt her fault the king chose her as succesor
aged_crone hands Willow some mayonnaise, while wondering why...
Rowana: She was spared the first time wasn't she? Yes, it was all Northumberland?
Willow: And French fries, the big chunky ones restaurants serve. Leslie-- her father was surely a significant influence in that.
Willow: And then when she was in the Tower others rose on her behalf, and Mary had her executed then.
aged_crone: Snort. The king didn't do diddly - it was her greedy father-in-law.
crazyviolin: i dont evil queens like mary
Rowana: I thought it was her mother Willow?
aged_crone: Don't care. She should have had the guts to say no.
crazyviolin: like*
Willow makes a turkey and cheese and lettuce sandwich on toasted wheat bagel with mayonnaise and adds steak fries
aged_crone: Mary wasn't evil.
Willow: No, she wasn't.
crazyviolin: to the king? they would have killed her anyway
aged_crone drools at Willow's sandwich
Willow: But would it have mattered if Jane Grey had said no?
crazyviolin: she was deluded then
Willow makes a sandwich for LEslie
Willow and anyone who wants one
crazyviolin: yes because they didnt want catholics on the throne
aged_crone: She should have refused to try to take the throne. However, she was a nasty little bigot and didn't want Mary on the throne.
crazyviolin: no one else burnt so many in such a short space of time in english history
emerald: Hi Ro
Rowana: Not the king - Edward was king at the time and about twelve. I thought her father in law Northumberland planned it all.
Willow: Do we have any writings by Jane Grey?
crazyviolin: not many people did
aged_crone: Yes, it would have mattered if she had said "no." And Mary had the courage to defy her father and do what she believed was right; Jane could have done so.
Rowana: Lag!
crazyviolin: yes he did
Willow: Mary signed that oath eventually, though, didn't she?
Rowana: Hey Emerald
aged_crone: Take a look at the number of people Henry VIII and Elizabeth I executed. Mary was a rank amateur in comparison.
crazyviolin: she was much younger than mary
crazyviolin: not in 2 years though
Willow: Mary was a strong personality who had the support of much of the country behind her; Jane was a child surrounded by powerful manipulating men.
crazyviolin: well put
Rowana: Leslie - Mary was heir to the throne. And considering the history with her mother, maybe a little bit of an edge in terms of belief in what was right over Jane
aged_crone: She wasn't younger than Mary was when she first defied her father. (And, yes, after her mother died she gave up, poor girl).
crazyviolin: she shouldnt have beheaded jane though
Rowana: But Mary only had five years to execute all those people in
Rowana: Much less than Henry and Lizzie
Willow: So how does Mary become poor girl after her mother dies but Jane is weakwilled?
aged_crone: Henry executed several hundred people after the Pilgrimage of Grace, within a very short period of time.
Rowana: The same number Mary did?
Mariah is lost
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Rowana: (Which was either 300 or 3000, can't remember which)
Rowana: Hi Mariah!
Willow: 300
aged_crone: Jane had committed treason and was a danger. Mary had tried being merciful, and ended up with a rebellion on her hands. Not Jane's fault, probably, but nonetheless.
Willow: Or 600ish.
aged_crone: Mary executed about 300.
DawnBluewings hates her internet connection....
crazyviolin: but even when she realised what she was doing was wrong and people were telling her to stop she still did it
crazyviolin: Mary still managed to sign two death warrants before she died
Rowana: Wasn't Jane a friend of Edward's? And she'd've had to resist marrying Guildford Dudley in the start to have stood a chance at not being forced into it all.
aged_crone: She didn't believe what she was doing was wrong.
aged_crone: (Mary, I mean).
Willow: Mary had the character fiber to refuse to give in to the husband she loved, to keep England out of foreign control.
Willow: Yes... but that's never an excuse.
crazyviolin: she realised it was causing rebellion and resentment
Rowana: That's true. Though we did end up going to war with France in the end. :P
aged_crone: Jane was his friend and his cousin. Her mother, Frances Brandon Grey, was the daughter of Henry VIII's sister, Mary.
crazyviolin: and she lost calais because of it
aged_crone: I wasn't making it an excuse, I was contradicting what Lin said.
Rowana: Yes. Which wasn't that much use anyway, but she did get upset about it.
aged_crone: It's all King John's fault. If he hadn't lost most of his French possessions, Calais wouldn't have been a lone outpost. :)
Rowana: I just realised Dawn joined the chat a while back. Hello Dawn!
crazyviolin: we agree on something !
Hebe ponders how many people Attolia may have had executed
Rowana: Didn't England still have control over one or two other areas around France during Henry VII's time which Henry VIII lost?
aged_crone: Her first husband, for one...
DawnBluewings: (hello, Ro. I was here before, but my internet died in my general direction.)
Rowana: From the description in QoA, it sounds like a fair number
Mariah: There were a bunch of barons, and then the guy who stole from the treasury
crazyviolin: ive got go now, film's started. thanks for an awesome history debate! (nothing better in the world!!)
Mariah: Ro- I can change color
Willow: Bye Lin!
Rowana: Mariah, it's okay, I'll change to red
crazyviolin: and were on topic:( bye!
aged_crone: I don't recall that Henry lost any... Hold on, I'll check... Katharine of Aragon was regent while he was at war in France...
Rowana: Bye :)
emerald: bye Lin
Willow: I saw a book in one of the airport bookstores about how the high point of Katherine's life was being regent then, and she got there by telling one of the "most audacious lies in English history." I didn't buy it.
DawnBluewings: au revoir
Rowana: It's just that I remember there being some other area we had during HII's time, and I can't think who else could've lost it, Leslie
Mariah: I already changes
Mariah: *changed
Mariah: Bye!
aged_crone: Bye, Lin.
DawnBluewings: Beretty gold....
Rowana: Oops, so did I
Hebe waves goodbye to 'lin
Rowana: I'll change back. :)
DawnBluewings: (*pretty)
aged_crone: I saw that same book in an airport store! It looked like utter drivel to me, and I gather the lie she supposedly told was about her first marriage - the idea in the book being that it was in fact consummated.
Rowana: Philipa Gregory, right?
Willow: It was with a bunch of other historical fiction books like Philippa Gregory-- and in another airport bookstore I saw that Alison Weir has two new books out!
Willow: Ro, I think it was by a guy.
Willow: Leslie, I agree. I don't think she lied.
Rowana: Ah, okay Willow. I don't think I've heard of it then. :)
Mariah: Wait. What are you talking about now?
aged_crone: No. She was a person of honor and integrity.
Hebe: Tudor executions a politics seem tid to religion (I'm no historian so this may be waaaay naive) but Sounisian, Eddisian, and Attolian not, even though they have separate gods
Willow: ... maybe it was Philippa Gregory.
Rowana: She was a Catholic. A very firm Catholic. I don't think she'd lie.
aged_crone: I thought the one I saw was by Philippa Gregory, but Icould be wrong.
Willow: Hebe, yes, I agree.
Hebe: a=and; tid=tied
Willow: Catholics do lie occasionally...
Rowana: Hebe, I found the bit about the invaders and Sophos's father's ideas about religion interesting
Willow: What did Sophos's father say about religion?
emerald: (someone remember to post the backlog)
Rowana: Perhaps they've had problems in the past, but don't anymore?
DawnBluewings: Catholics do lie, But probably not about something like that.
emerald: having two sets of gods is like having two kings. people don't know which to be loyal to
Rowana: Willow - about something as important as that? I just meant that she was incredibly religious, and since it was a religious matter...
Mariah: According to the Bible, Christians in general should not lie. However, just because you practice a particular religion does not mean that you will not do things contrary to your religon
emerald: or something like that, Willow
aged_crone: I liked that when Teleus recited the prayer to Hephestia, the weather changed - not quite as spectacularly as it did for Gen that one time, however.
emerald: my heart almost stopped reading that for the first time!
Willow: Ro, I know. I was just saying that just because someone's Catholic doesn't mean they're automatically completely honest.
Mariah: Emerald- that's right
Willow: Ah, ok.
aged_crone: I believe Katharine of Aragon because her whole record is of honesty and decency. I'm not denying that Catholics and other Christians sometimes lie, I'm just judging based on KofA's (Ha!) character.
Rowana: Willow, - I know too. Just didn't phrase myself very well. :)
emerald: lol, Leslie, KofA and KoA. how ironic
aged_crone: Mariah - say Hi to you mom for me. I owe her a letter!
emerald: (Gen and lying too, i mean)
Rowana: The bit about Eddis resisting religious change was interesting.
Willow: Leslie, I may have asked you this before, but what do you think about whether Anne Boleyn cheated on Henry?
Mariah: Leslie- I will.
Rowana: And Katherine Howard too, since they were both accused of the same thing?
aged_crone: That I don't know, but I suspect not. She would have had to be monumentally stupid, and I don't think she was. (I love Henry's sneaky way of having the marriage declared invalid on grounds of her precontract with Henry Percy; and still executing her for adultery. Hello, nitwit: No marriage, no adultery!
Mariah: Gen lies a lot, but he never lies about important things
aged_crone: Katherine Howard, I can believe. She does seem to have been rather a dim bulb, and her upbringing didn't help.
Hebe: Plans for changing Attolia back to the old gods sound very smooth - can't remember the details, but isn't there something about Attolians not being particularly bothered?
aged_crone: I don't remember the part about Eddis resisting... Oh, Eddis the country, not Eddis the Queen. Never mind!
Rowana: Yes - that seems to apply to most characters in the books, at least to begin with, regarding religion.
Willow: Leslie, I never noticed the precontract contradiction. But I believe she didn't cheat on him, either; she never confessed even at her last confession, when she had no reason to expect Henry would still pardon her.
aged_crone: The Attolians don't much believe in their gods, so it's no big deal to them.
emerald: Well, Costis must do because he promised 10 gold cups
Mariah: Are they totally changing over, though? I thought that they were going to have both gods
Rowana: I dunno, Costis seemed to genuinely believe.
Rowana: Oops, lag.
emerald: or maybe that was faith returning in extreme situations, as Attolia thought when she cut Gen's hand off
Mariah: I don't think that it's right for the government to tell you what to worship.
aged_crone: Yes, but I know there's a part in there where it says something about how little faith the Attolians have.
Hebe: Even if they don't believe much in their gods, they might still get annoyed by beign expected to believe in a different set
Rowana: But, unity in terms of religion is generally considered neccessary in that kind of state, isn't it?
Mariah: And in Sounis, although they have the 'new' Gods, they still use the 'old' gods to curse
aged_crone: Mariah - I don't, either, but that's a very modern concept.
Willow: (What about the Other Boleyn Girl?)
aged_crone: I'll bet the palace glaziers love the new gods.
Rowana: Otherwise you wouldn't have ended up with all the see-sawing during the Tudor period
emerald: yeah, they will have different festivals and stuff. the festivals just being an excuse to have a good time?
aged_crone: I didn't read The Other Boleyn Girl because it was by the same author who seemed to be doing such a hatchet job on Katharine, and butchering history in the process, so I figured, why bother?
Rowana: That sounds like most people (or most people I know), in real life though. I guess, they believe, but, not intensely.
Mariah: Why did Attolia look like Hephestia (sp?) when she believed in the 'new' gods? Would her people understand the reference?
Willow: that's what I was thinking, but it looks interesting. Less butchery perhaps.
aged_crone: But I recommend Norah Lofts' THE KING'S PLEASURE (Katharine of Aragon), and THE CONCUBINE (Anne Boleyn).
Rowana: I didn't think the Other Boleyn Girl was bad. Have you read it Willow?
Rowana: lag again. It's worth a read Willow, I think.
Hebe: So the glaziers may believe?
Mariah: Leslie- My mom said that you also owe her a recipe :-)
emerald: the old gods have prevailed despite the invaders bringing the new gods. they may not be believed in in Attolia, but they haven't been forgotten
aged_crone: Hephestia is one of the old gods, so I assume that the Attolians knew what her statues looked like (sort of like we recognize Athena by her helmet and breastplate).
Mariah: So then the crossover should be fairly smooth, right?
aged_crone: The glaziers must hope that Gen will irritate his gods more often! :)
aged_crone: Oooh, I do! I'm sorry! I'll send it!
Mariah: (I mean if they stil;l remember/sort-of believe in the old gods?)
aged_crone grovels to Peggy
Mariah: *still
Rowana: Willow - if you're interested in going back to the point where the Tudor line branches off, 'Katherine' about Katherine Swynford isn't bad.
Willow: I saw that one too, yes.
aged_crone: by Anya Seton. Good book.
emerald: it is a good book
Rowana: That's the one.
Willow: ... Mary Boleyn's granddaughter was second wife to the love (Robert Dudley) of Elizabeth I, Mary's niece.
Willow: Huh.
emerald: ?
emerald tries to work out links
Rowana: Didn't Elizabeth end up having Robert Dudley's nephew or son hanging around her by the end of her reign?
Willow: the Earl of Essex?
Rowana: Yes - I remember hearing that Willow
Rowana: She had an odd name
Willow: Lettice
Mariah: My mom gave you guys an assignment: Compare and Contrast the religion of the Attolia books and Tudor England
aged_crone: There, Mariah, the recipe's on its way.
Rowana: Lettice Knollys, something like that
Rowana: Yes, I think it was the Earl of Essex, Willow.
Philia from x.x.x.249 left this message 6 seconds ago:
Wow, I got called a paragon of normalness. I sure hope that was sarcastic.
Mariah: Hey, Philia
emerald: Philia! Just in time for the assignment!
Rowana: Hi Philia. :)
emerald: only kidding :P
Avian from x.x.x.20 joined the chat 12 seconds ago
emerald: Avian too! Wow, this chat sure has a big turnout
Avian: i was kicked out!
Mariah: Hey, Avian
Rowana is backlogging and has just found the 'kings underbear' joke
aged_crone from x.x.x.98 joined the chat
Avian backlogs
emerald: heeehee, lol
DawnBluewings from x.x.x.80 joined the chat
Philia from x.x.x.249 left this message 64 seconds ago:
Hi. I can't stay, so I'm resisting the urge to join and give my opinions on religion in Gen's world. Of course I have many opinions. Have you ever known me not to? It'll have to wait. Mother-in-law downstairs requires entertaining.
Mariah: Hi Dawn and Leslie!
aged_crone: GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Again, booted!
Rowana: Hi Leslie, hi Dawn, Hey Avian
aged_crone: And for Richard III, Rosemary Hawley Jarman's We Speak No Treason[\i] (actually, I recommend quite a few of her books)
emerald: darn, do an sounis post, Philia! you are good at sharing your knowledge that way
DawnBluewings reenters, singing "I hate my internet, it hates me, I hate my internet, it hates me!"
emerald offers tea and cookies
aged_crone: Rowana - did you recover from the Underbear?
Avian: my brother is very good at KILLING the internet
Rowana glares Dawn's internet connection into submission
aged_crone: Whoops, blew the end italics, didn't I.
Rowana: Leslie - just about. I hope the pun police gave you a good talking to.
aged_crone: :)
aged_crone: For Montrose, Rupert and their times, Margaret Irwin's THE PROUD SERVANT, THE STRANGER PRINCE, THE BRIDE, and ROYAL FLUSH
aged_crone: For Charles II's escape after Worcester, Georgette Heyer's ROYAL ESCAPE
Rowana: I'm up to the bit about Jade squeeing over the naked scene at the end of KoA
Rowana: (tee hee)
aged_crone sneers at italics and tells them I can get along without them
Rowana: It's not entirely historical, but if you're going on a historical fiction kick, read 'King of the Shadows' by Susan Cooper
aged_crone: Sheesh - naked scene, WNS: no wonder you all are considered reprobates!
Mariah: That happened ages ago, though
aged_crone: Is that the Shakespeare one?
emerald: Leslie, don't forget bears, the 5 way marriage and the whole ogling Costis thing
Mariah: I really like King of Shadows!
Hebe coughs
aged_crone: Mariah - what happened ages ago?
Mariah: Yes, it is
aged_crone: Emerald - I was trying to, really I was!
Mariah: Jade squeeing over the end of KoA
Willow from x.x.x.59 joined the chat 7 seconds ago
Rowana: Yes, that's the Shakespeare one Leslie
Willow: Garg, I got lagged/kicked out.
Mariah: Because that was when I was doing my book report
aged_crone: In this room people have loooooong memories.
Mariah: Hey Willow
Avian: no, it was mentioned at the beginning of the chat
Willow: Who was it that Checkers said could hit her with a riding crop any times? Sam someone.
Avian: i am up to... when Mariah entered
Willow: Neil?
Mariah: It was only rementioned, though.
emerald: LOL WILLOW
Willow: Yeah. Neill.
emerald: Sam Neill
aged_crone: I started a bibliography of fiction involving children who run away and join Shakespeare's company. There are quite a number of them! I ran across King of Shadows then, but didn't read it.
Willow: Leslie, that rings a bell...
Willow backlogs in her brain
Mariah: I remember that...but wasn't that before the backlog was deleted?
DawnBluewings: On a complete random, does anyone here draw?
aged_crone: I should write a story in which Shakespeare looks around in bewilderment, wondering why in heck the place is crawling with kids, several of them girls disguised as boys, all members of his company.
Avian: i do :)
Mariah: Avian does
DawnBluewings: Sorry, I'm known for total, utter randoms.
Willow: A boy who ran away, and his father disowned him, and he ended up coming back with a newly-orphaned girl, and his parents took both of them in again...
Willow: And Shakespeare was involved. Any bells, anyone?
Mariah crawls out of Avian's head
aged_crone: Marchette Chute.
emerald: what was in the deleted backlog, mariah?
Hebe: girls disguised as boys disguised as girls...
aged_crone: Is the author.
Willow: ... wow.
Willow is awed by Leslie's awesomeness
Rowana: Dawn - I don't. Erm, Emerald makes awesome dolls.
aged_crone: I think - I may be mixing two books together.
Mariah: Checkers and the riding crop
DawnBluewings: I nknow, I'v seen ^^
emerald: its on the main casting thread - see actors tag, Mariah
aged_crone: The Wonderful Winter is the one by Chute where Shakespeare's involved.
DawnBluewings: Grawr, lag!
Willow: ... Master Skylark.
Hebe: I think Cue for Treason was the first such book I read
emerald: i will find it for you
Avian: how do i look in pink?
aged_crone: Oh, of cours.
Rowana: Cue for Treason! I was trying to think of the name
aged_crone: *course
Mariah: I think that I read it.
Rowana: I think that was the first such book I read too
emerald: oh, i don't draw BTW. or not very well, anyway
emerald: http://community.livejournal.com/sounis/12280.html#cutid1 its on here, somewhere
Rowana: Bye Geoffrey Something?
Hebe: Trease
Mariah: what is?
Rowana: Or involving a Geoffrey someone?
aged_crone: They all start to blur together!
Rowana: That was it. :) Thanks Hebe.
emerald: On casting for the Magus. Fabricalchemist: No way, dude. Sam Neill totally means business and would smack anyone with a riding crop. Especially dinosaurs. Checkers: Perfect! Ian McKellan is too old. Sam Neill=Just right. And he can smack me with a riding crop any day. :)
Hebe: The two main character play a small part in a Civil War (UK) set sequel
Rowana: Y'know, I think we mentioned that comment of Checkers' in the last chat too
emerald: Checkers: Yikes! I didn't really SAY that, did I? I just THOUGHT it. Rowana: You said it Checkers. We'll never let you forget it. ;)
aged_crone: I need to dig out the bibliography I came up with.
emerald: ...and forget it, we never did. amen
Rowana: As I recall, she said something about being happy to provide amusement for everyone.
aged_crone from x.x.x.98 left this message 2 seconds ago:
Have you all seen this?
The Washington Post Style Invitational contest asked readers to submit
"instructions" for something (anything), written in the style of a famous
person . . The winning entry was The Hokey Pokey (as written by W.
Shakespeare) . . .
O proud left foot, that ventures quick within
Then soon upon a backward journey lithe.
Anon, once more the gesture, then begin:
Command sinistral pedestal to writhe.
Commence thou then the fervid Hokey-Poke,
A mad gyration, hips in wanton swirl.
To spin! A wilde release from Heavens yoke.
Blessed dervish! Surely canst go, girl.
The Hoke, the poke -- banish now thy doubt.
Verily, I say, 'tis what it's all about.
-- by William Shakespeare (Jeff Brechlin, Potomac Falls)
Willow: LOL
Mariah: Nope
emerald: I thought she said that about the calling Megan weird thing. Was it just generally?
Willow: ... apparently Master Skylark was a vintage book. too bad my copy burned.
Hebe: A breakthough moment for me when I realised (age 9 or whatever) that someone alive in Elizabeth's reign could still have been alive for the Civil War, and that history kinda merges in on itself rather than beign completely discrete sections
Willow: Yes!
Willow: That's a hard thought to swallow sometimes.
Rowana: Lol, Leslie
emerald: Hebe, i never thought of that before. *headdesks*
Willow makes quasi-reality milkshakes
Willow washes down her sandwich and fries
aged_crone: Willow - it's widely available, apparently. Prices not bad, either. By John Bennett. Just go to www.bookfinder.com
Willow: It's on Gutenberg too. :-)
aged_crone: What's hard for me to wrap my mind around is that Laura Ingalls Wilder, she of frontier life and covered wagons, lived well into the age of flight.
Willow: ... cool.
Willow: I need to replace the Little House books!
Mariah: She did?
emerald: wow
DawnBluewings: Yup.
Mariah: I guess that when we only do American History, we miss the connections in the rest of the world
DawnBluewings: For some rearson I never could get into those books...
emerald: ditto, British history and for the last 5 years, no history
aged_crone: LIW died in 1957. Two world wars, airplanes... Only a decade or so short of the moon landing.
Mariah: Why haven't you done history for five years?
Rowana: Yes, it's nice studying History in terms of lots of different countries
emerald: you give up subjects at certain points in school
Hebe: When was she born?
Mariah: What did you take instead?
Rowana: Five years Emerald? I thought you had to keep it till Year 9?
emerald: i was never any good at history (can't write the essays very well) so i gave it up
aged_crone: Most of my history I got outside of school, just from reading books.
emerald: ack, 4 years
Mariah: I think that history is pretty much required for us through high school
Rowana: And wow, I just realised it's been four years since Year 9. I feel old.
aged_crone: She was born in 1867.
Hebe: ta
aged_crone: No prob.
aged_crone: The Little House books always make me hungry.
Mariah: She was 90 when she died? I thought that she died younger?
aged_crone: (I have the Little House cookbook; it's got some great recipes).
emerald: (we have to do maths, sciences and english language and literature until the last 2 years of high school though)
Mariah: hungry?
Mariah: nevermind
aged_crone: No, she was nearly 90.
Mariah: Oh.
aged_crone: They're always eating something that sounds fabulous. (Especially the Wilders in Farmer Boy). Even *bear* sounds appetizing in those books!
emerald: LOL
Hebe: Seems so recent... now I spend so much time on genealogy research I think of that sort of time as "modern" because of the ease of getting census data and certificates and soforth (at least in the UK)
Avian: i'm glad i didn't have the chance to drop anything... i would have dropped science which would have been bad
emerald: Don't. Eat. The. Dancing. Bear
Willow throws herself between Leslie and the Dancing Bear
Mariah: Bear?
emerald: nice, the mind reading still works
Mariah: Ewww!
Hebe laughs
emerald offers Willow special cookies
Willow declines cookies with polite thanks
aged_crone: Hey, I said it sounded appetizing in the book, not that I was dashing out to find one to cook!
DawnBluewings: Supposedly bear tastes like sweeter pork.
Willow looks at Leslie suspiciously
Avian: you must not have gotten to the alligator gumbo part of the backlog yet :P
Mariah: Well, you know...just in case
Rowana notes that this is probably not making the dancing bear feel any better
emerald: Leslie, here's a question for you: would you rather eat the dancing bear or join the dancing bear in 5 way marriage?
Rowana: And yes, he can understand us. This is quasi reality.
Rowana: ...
Willow: ...
Willow flees
aged_crone refuses to enter the warped reality that is your Doomfic
aged_crone is normal.
Rowana casts around for subject change
Willow: Hey! Don't sully the doomfic with those implications!
aged_crone is sane.
Willow chokes at the suggestion that Leslie is normal and sane
Willow hands emerald the reprobate badge
Rowana: Hey, Leslie is meant to be our token sane person
emerald: the warped reality is a doomfic OF a doomfic.
Mariah: Leslie...sane?
Rowana: Though, yeah, good point Willow
aged_crone preens herself on her sanity and normality.
Hebe: At school I gave up history and geography and took economics instead... because the history syllabus looked depressing and dull! Ah, so naive about economics...
Willow throws herself between emerald and the doomfic
emerald: which makes original doomfic more like reality in comparison
emerald has already sprinkled cooki crumbs on the doomfic
emerald: *cookie
Rowana: (I never said anything about normal)
Willow brushes off the doomfic
Mariah is confused
Rowana: Eek, Economics looks horrific
Willow: Jade, we owe Rowana doomfic and it's overdue!!
emerald: Hebe - you'll learn! I only started doing economics 2 years ago and i'm doing it at uni next year
emerald: DOOMFIC
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Rowana: That's okay Willow, you guys can take your time
aged_crone: Welcome back, Dawn.
Avian: leslie gave up her sanity a LONG time ago :P
DawnBluewings reenters, singing "I hate my internet, it hates me, I hate my internet, it hates me!" again
Rowana: Hello again Dawn. :)
emerald: oh, Willow has already said that.
Hebe: emerald- rather you than me! I dropped it after two years.
Avian: lag!
Rowana tries glaring at Dawn's connection again but realises that this probably won't work
emerald: I am spending the whole of this evening 2 moments behind Willow
Willow: Ro-- shhhhhh!! Don't give us an excuse to procrastinate.
Rowana suggests stroking the modem menacingly
Willow makes Dawn a new connection out of duct tape
Willow: It's the latest tech wave. ;-)
emerald: I bet Willow thought of the whole bears thing first too :P
Rowana: I'm sorry, are we meant to be poking Jade?
Rowana is a little slow on the uptake
DawnBluewings: Duct tape- The Handyman's secret weapon!
Rowana: Doomfic!
Hebe: ductTape 2.0
Rowana: Oops, Doomfic works better
Willow: What?? No! Don't blame the bears on me!!!!!!!!!!!
emerald: For those who think we are normal: http://community.livejournal.com/sounis/38116.html
Willow: We're poking Jade and me.
Willow flees the poking
aged_crone: Duct tape: Like the Force, it has a dark side and a light side and it binds the galaxies together
Rowana gets out a very long stick
emerald does not know who to flee; runs around in circles
emerald: Leslie, unlike the Force, you can make cookies out of it
emerald: OOPS
Willow: ...
emerald: there goes the 'secret' in secret ingredient
Rowana smiles at underwear bearing the words GUT on the wall
emerald: LOL
Rowana: Just clicked on your link Emerald. :)
emerald: Hebe, Dawn! The Link will solve All Your Problems
Hebe: Earlier today I was googling to fidn the diiference between goat and sheep wool
emerald: haha, you should print that out Ro and pin it to the pants
Hebe apologies for the bad typing
Hebe: and thought of you lot
Willow: To quote Thnidu-- "To ruminate is not simply to chew, but to chew the cud. Which means they would have to chew the underwear, swallow it, let it digest partially, and then bring it up again to chew it some more and swallow it into a different stomach. Or something like that."
Rowana: lol, Emerald
DawnBluewings: Goat is more coarse, harder to spin. Shorter fibers, generally.
Willow: Hey, I remember when Emerald didn't have an LJ!
emerald: hahahahah
Avian: so do i :)
emerald: I Came Over to the Dark Side
Mariah: Emerald- I think that I read that before...was it posted here before?
Rowana: Avian, pink suits you. :)
Hebe: (most sites said goat was hair and not wool. I decided to write it in as sheep after all)
Avian: good. olive looked strange
emerald: olive reminds me of Jade
emerald: wait, she calls it 'gold'
emerald: forget i said anything, Jade
Mariah: It was gold before
DawnBluewings: (Yes. It's sheep WOOL, goat HAIR.)
Mariah: It changed to olive fairly in the lst two months
Mariah: *skip the fairly :-)
emerald: gold-olive-Gen eats olives
emerald: -=train of thoughts
Avian: black or green olives?
emerald: GREEN!
Avian: ick
emerald: i like the colour
Avian: ah
emerald: but black probably tastes better
Avian: yes
DawnBluewings: Green olives are unripe, so black tastes better.
emerald: we'll see when we go to Greece
Avian: yes, but the resturants always use green in salads :(
Willow: Gen throws olives?
Rowana: Black always seems more sour
Willow: I bet he spits the pits at people as a child.
Willow: Do the Eddisians have watermelon, do you think?
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emerald: from above, hanging off a balcony
Willow: What do y'all think about another question letter to Ms. Turner? Hey Leslie!
emerald: imported from sounis
aged_crone: Booted for the third time! We must really be generating backlog.
Rowana: I'm sure he does Willow - I think they may
emerald: Gen mentions sounis having watermelons the size of his head
Rowana: I think that's a good idea Willow, I remember thinking about it a while ago, but I wasn't sure we'd be able to come up with enough questions
aged_crone: Greek olives that are dried are YUMMY!
emerald: ...and that he must have got out of prison later than he expected
Rowana: Crap that, enough questions which have a reasonable chance of being answered.
Rowana: And oops, that should've been SCRAP that. Sorry, anyone lurking who happens to be under 14.
emerald: Willow, that's a good idea.
Willow rubs her burning eyes
Willow: at the sight of Ro's slip :P
aged_crone: "Ms. Turner: Have you hired security guards since you realized that your fans, with certain honorable exceptions **kofflesliekoff**, are raving lunatics?"
Hebe: Do the lurkers have to crawl above the fake ceiling, or do they skulk in the shadows?
emerald: i bet she chooses Costis lookalike security guards *swoons*
emerald: only kidding :P
Rowana: I'm sorry. I'm getting a little deja vu here, I think i've done this before.
DawnBluewings: We lurkers sit on the rafters above the cieling....
Willow: ... If I excerpted those three lines (Leslie, Hebe, Emerald) it would be a perfect picture of Sounis madness.
Willow: We three lurkers of Sounis are...
emerald: maybe we should send them to her
Rowana: "Dear Megan, pleaaaase, pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease with cherries on top will you tell us what happened on the wedding night?"
Willow: Bearing binoculars we brought from afar...
Willow: :D :D :D
Avian: lol
Willow likes Ro's idea
Avian: to both!
Willow: If I didn't think it would be annoying, I would suggest that we all write her individually about the WNS.
emerald: PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE
aged_crone: Rowana! What a shocking question!
Avian: wns?
aged_crone: :)
Willow: Wedding Night Scene.
Avian: oh, right
Avian: we could all right individually and send it in one
Rowana: It's never going to happen. Slush pile and all that.
emerald: to be honest, im more bothered about what happens to Sophos
Avian: write*
Hebe: I'm not lurking in the ceiling untilI get rid of this flu-like bug - my coughs would really give the game away!
emerald: WNS has happened. so. there. *leaves cookies on the rafters for lurkers*
Rowana: I think we all are Emerald. And the Medes and all, actually.
aged_crone: "Ms. Turner: Can you please tell us a)of what material the inkpot that Attolia flung at Gen on the wedding night was made, and b)the color of the ink that it contained?"
Willow: ...
DawnBluewings: That's okay, the rest of can hoot like owls to cover it up.
emerald: what colour is Costis's hair
Willow: Dark?
emerald: that's what i want to know
DawnBluewings wonders that also
Rowana: "c)Why exactly they cried, d) in detail, (with much description of facial expression), exactly what was said"
Rowana: Though I guess she's answered c already
emerald: and what does the guard uniform look like? (doll for Jade, kinda thing)
Mariah: Emerald- What color is Aris' hair?
Avian: and how do attolia and costis behave when drunk? :P
Hebe: twooo-cough-twooo
Rowana: What on earth is Gen planning for Costis in the next book? I want to know that.
aged_crone: Will Eddis and any members of her court be likely to visit the court at Attolia at any time?
Rowana: Maybe the rest of us should hoot Hebe? You can, er, smother your coughs.
aged_crone: Will Gen publicly insist that Eddis go and change into something less unbecoming?
Rowana: Which would probably turn them into hiccups, so maybe not.
Hebe: I'd like to know.... why my entire screen just went bold italics
Rowana: Leslie - a scene like that would make my month
Avian: weird
emerald: (whoever does the chat transcript: ctrl+v to paste the backlog keeps it in colour)
Avian: to the bold/italics
Willow: Is Irene pregnant?
Mariah: I think that Gen will make Costis into the Thief of Attolia
Rowana: I'm doing it, thanks Emerald, I'll try that
Avian: who is doing the backlog?
Willow: Mariah, that's brilliant.
Rowana: But it won't keep its colour on the LJ post
Avian: WHERE IS SOPHOS
Rowana: Mariah - wow. I wonder what Costis would make of that
aged_crone: Will Stenides visit the court of Attolia, causing maidens to swoon over his bicepts?
aged_crone: *biceps
Rowana has a mental image of Costis sobbing
Avian: it would require a lot of training...
Rowana: When is Stenides actually going to be mentioned in the books?
Willow: The thieving or the swooning?
aged_crone: Isn't Costis a bit old to be training for thieving?
Hebe: Will Eddis and the Magus fall in lurve?
Rowana: I mean, not mentioned. Actually appear.
Willow: brb
Mariah: But he trusts Costis. My mom disagrees with me...but I don't remember what she thinks
Rowana: Hebe - I thought that for a while, but now i'm going with the 'just friends' theory
Mariah: Hebe- NO! I think that they're just friends
Rowana: I read 'Hard Times' a while ago, and am still squicked out by marriages which aren't a close enough match in terms of age.
Avian: because we want SOPHOS to marry her :)
DawnBluewings: Hoo-hoOo, hoo-hoOo
Hebe: Aw, but they're sweet together.
aged_crone: Because the books seem to be filled with cradle-robbing Queens.
Avian: true
Rowana: Yes! Is Sophos actually hiding out with bears somewhere, as was one theory?
Mariah: Friends sweet!
Avian: but they are my second choice still
aged_crone: Goodness, it's pushing midnight!
Hebe: [The conspirators look around, puzzled. "Flippin' owls get everywhere," mutters the mean looking figure in eth shadows.]
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Mariah: What ever happened to Sophos? I mean, he just cannot be dead!
aged_crone: I must away!
Rowana: Well...he could be
Hebe: pumpkin time?
Avian: bye, Leslie!
Mariah: Bye, Leslie!
Rowana: But he won't be!
Rowana: Bye Leslie
emerald: i have to go too. Bye
aged_crone: Farewell, my reprobatish friends!
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Hebe: night to those leaving
Rowana: Bye Emerald
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Date: 4/1/07 12:33 am (UTC)Adding to the list of "kids who run away and join Shakespeare's company" books: The Shakespeare Stealer and its two sequels by Gary Blackwood.
toowhit to woo toowhit to woo *attempts owl noises*
~Feir Dearig
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Date: 4/1/07 09:17 pm (UTC)The name Gary Blackwood is ringing a bell. I'll have to check these books out. :)
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