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queensthiefHey! New person here. I finally (finally) found you guys! And boy is this going to be the start of a beautiful friendship. I mean seriously. An in-depth discussion of underware and Sophos's facial hair?! What is not to love?
The Queen's Thief series has been the love of my life for over 10 years now. And I am halfway (heh. maybe more than that!) in love with Gen. A friend introduced him to me and I will always remember the utter sadness I felt when I realized there were only two books and a third was very uncertain. And then the wait! My gosh the wait for KoA! Did any of you here have to wait between Thief and QoA? If you did how did you survive? Did you think there would be a sequel?
I finally let it go, resigned, until one day I walked in my library and KoA was waiting there for me in that gorgeous cover. Sheer bliss is an understatement. And since then I have never doubted a 4th (or 5th, 6th, 7th...ok that is my eternal hope speaking).
These are a part of a select minority (including everything Robin McKinley) of books that I read and re-read and read again. I daren't replace them but they are just falling apart because they are so well-loved. And I pimp these books like crazy. I try and (with infinite stealth *snorts*) put them on display when I go to libraries. I hope that at least one person has benefited from my craziness!
And I have been searching for ages (all in the wrong places of course) for fellow fans and aficionados. So I almost fell off my chair when I heard about Sounis and there was no way I was sleeping that night.
I am overjoyed, giddy to be apart of this comm, especially as March is slowly but surely, creeping up!
And here is my first (!!!) question: in the series we have seen how MWT uses myths specifically to parallel and inform Gen's story. For example we got her ( I don't have the books with me!) version of Persephone and Hades to parallel Helen's reluctance to let Gen go. But I cannot understand the significance of the myth of Basilius that Phersine tells Gen, especially since she made it up. Why was Gen so uncomfortable? Why was he comforted and humbled in the end? What was the myth saying about Gen's current circumstances?
And on a side note: How much do you adore Phresine?!
So there it is. I cannot wait to get to know all of you and share this and many other loves.
BTW, I choose my screen name before I knew of this comm! Excellent forshadowing, right?
The Queen's Thief series has been the love of my life for over 10 years now. And I am halfway (heh. maybe more than that!) in love with Gen. A friend introduced him to me and I will always remember the utter sadness I felt when I realized there were only two books and a third was very uncertain. And then the wait! My gosh the wait for KoA! Did any of you here have to wait between Thief and QoA? If you did how did you survive? Did you think there would be a sequel?
I finally let it go, resigned, until one day I walked in my library and KoA was waiting there for me in that gorgeous cover. Sheer bliss is an understatement. And since then I have never doubted a 4th (or 5th, 6th, 7th...ok that is my eternal hope speaking).
These are a part of a select minority (including everything Robin McKinley) of books that I read and re-read and read again. I daren't replace them but they are just falling apart because they are so well-loved. And I pimp these books like crazy. I try and (with infinite stealth *snorts*) put them on display when I go to libraries. I hope that at least one person has benefited from my craziness!
And I have been searching for ages (all in the wrong places of course) for fellow fans and aficionados. So I almost fell off my chair when I heard about Sounis and there was no way I was sleeping that night.
I am overjoyed, giddy to be apart of this comm, especially as March is slowly but surely, creeping up!
And here is my first (!!!) question: in the series we have seen how MWT uses myths specifically to parallel and inform Gen's story. For example we got her ( I don't have the books with me!) version of Persephone and Hades to parallel Helen's reluctance to let Gen go. But I cannot understand the significance of the myth of Basilius that Phersine tells Gen, especially since she made it up. Why was Gen so uncomfortable? Why was he comforted and humbled in the end? What was the myth saying about Gen's current circumstances?
And on a side note: How much do you adore Phresine?!
So there it is. I cannot wait to get to know all of you and share this and many other loves.
BTW, I choose my screen name before I knew of this comm! Excellent forshadowing, right?
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Date: 12/8/09 06:35 am (UTC)I've also always been a little lost by that myth. I think there have been discussion about it on the comm before, but it'll take some of the more experienced
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Date: 12/9/09 07:04 am (UTC)I used to feel the same way about the myths and honestly I still sometimes skip the ones in Thief *gasp*.
Thank you for the warm welcome! And I will check out what the veterans have to say.
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Date: 12/10/09 08:45 pm (UTC)mee too...well sometimes
during the Theif...and QoA...I was getting impatient!!
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Date: 12/8/09 10:16 am (UTC)I never quite got the Basilius tale either but there has been discussion on it. I'll try dig up the archives for you.
http://community.livejournal.com/sounis/241210.html
http://community.livejournal.com/sounis/16193.html
We have fortnightly chats in The Conspiracy Room - link is on the sidebar but you can pop in anytime and squee about the books.
*offers cookies*
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Date: 12/9/09 02:43 am (UTC)And, oddly enough, I am waiting around here for my former-roommate to get back so I can read her... you guessed it... the myth of Kilmun and Gerosthenes. (She's getting used to my slightly-obsessive over-the-shoulder, please-can-I-read-to-you thing. "What chapter are you on?" "Seven." "Oh I love that chapter! Its where everything really gets going! ... Can I read it to you?".... "What chapter are you on?" "Nine." "THAT ONE IS AWESOME.... can I read it to you?" Etc..)
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Date: 12/9/09 07:07 am (UTC)Another 2 books! For sure?! You have just made my night.
Thank you so much for taking time to find the discussion.
I will join the chats! No need for bribes, although I can't turn down cookies. BTW, what kind of cookies? Just curious :) And now that break from uni is coming soon I wil have time to chat. So excited.
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Date: 12/9/09 07:07 pm (UTC)I CAN COUNT, WOOHOO!The cookies are NOT bribes *indignant,
stamps foot petulantly XD*The cookies are...usually chocolate chip but can be whatever you want them to be if chocolate-chip isn't your thing.
Break from uni I hear you say...same here. Are you UK-based? I am.
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Date: 12/10/09 05:16 am (UTC)And I just got addicted to the tv show Merlin and I am so frustrated i am not over there! I can feel the craziness all the way over here in the U.S.
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Date: 12/8/09 10:40 am (UTC)(One of the funniest things ever IMHO)
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Date: 12/9/09 07:37 am (UTC)Almost fell off my bed! First Date!
Thank you for that! People are just so amazing.
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Date: 12/9/09 07:09 pm (UTC)In fact, there may be a sequel somewhere but I may have made this up in my head...
I think I made it up in my head.
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Date: 12/10/09 03:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 12/11/09 06:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 12/8/09 12:42 pm (UTC)Does anyone else know of other stories she may have in print?
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Date: 12/9/09 12:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 12/9/09 07:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 12/8/09 03:29 pm (UTC)*hearts Regina Spektor*
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Date: 12/9/09 07:11 am (UTC)Weeeell, I googled MWT fansites and you popped up. A tad embaressing, but I have been only vaugely aware of livejournal. So my mind has been blown away by all the communities on it. And there you were!
Have you heard Regina's newest album. far? She is incredible!
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Date: 12/9/09 03:42 pm (UTC)http://community.livejournal.com/sounis/145271.html
and the icons are here:
http://community.livejournal.com/sounis/150308.html
http://community.livejournal.com/sounis/153346.html
I have not heard Spektor's new album yet! She's great.
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Date: 12/9/09 07:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 12/9/09 08:38 pm (UTC)(Tencups buys music like its going out of fashion, so I never have to wait for stuff :))
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Date: 12/10/09 02:31 pm (UTC)*cries*
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Date: 12/10/09 09:43 pm (UTC)This is the first track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DLp-vE3AKg
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Date: 12/10/09 11:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 12/8/09 04:05 pm (UTC)Well, I found the books right after KoA had come out, so the only one I've had to wait for is Conspiracy of Kings, and it's been... what? About three years? I'm a pretty patient person, though, so it doesn't bother me!
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Date: 12/9/09 07:13 am (UTC)How did you find the books?
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Date: 12/8/09 09:54 pm (UTC)This is kinda how it is at the bookstore I work at (Books A Million--mostly a southeastern store here in the US) We used to have The Thief and hardcover of KoA (never could find Queen). Then just TT. And there was always just one lonely copy squished between all the other Newbery books and you practically couldn't see it. It was sad. Then they stopped carrying any of them altogether and I'm thoroughly depressed that I can't rec them to people in the store. (I still could, but it doesn't work as well when they want a new book NOW).
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Date: 12/9/09 07:16 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 12/10/09 01:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 12/8/09 11:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 12/9/09 07:19 am (UTC)Yes, I cannot aford hardbacks either. Even paperabcks are so expensive now! But I have to make exceptions for certain books,like ACoK.
Do the paperback versions (of Queen's Thief series) have the same gorgeous artwork as the hardbacks?
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Date: 12/12/09 02:00 am (UTC)Yes, the new paperbacks do have the same gorgeous artwork as the hardcovers, if you mean these hardcovers:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/King-of-Attolia/Megan-Whalen-Turner/e/9780060835798/?itm=1&USRI=the+king+of+attolia
(To be quite honest, I dislike the old covers of the books, I'm so glad I have these versions) The Thief and The King of Attolia paperbacks also have extras in the back.
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Date: 12/9/09 01:32 am (UTC)LOL! We can all relate to that.
I was in Borders yesterday and they had not one but TWO copies of Thief and right next to them one copy of each of the others. It made me so happy that I bought one Thief to give my niece for Christmas.
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Date: 12/9/09 07:01 am (UTC)I keep hoping that these books will get the fan recognition they deserve *coughTwilightcough* but I wonder if they were as popular as Twilight, or Gosip Girl or Eragon if it would affect them negatively? I don't know.
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Date: 12/8/09 11:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 12/9/09 06:45 am (UTC)I am with you. I will check out the expert's opinons here. But I bet you have more insight than you think. Or maybe in will come in the next 100 readings :)
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Date: 12/9/09 01:42 am (UTC)But I'm kinda simple, so that's probably just the surface of it. Either that or it's dead on because I actually read it here at Sounis. Isn't Sounis A W E S O M E?????
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Date: 12/9/09 06:47 am (UTC)I like your interpretation and I think that is what I am thinking. I wonder though if Gen is the King who is the Slave who saves him? hmmm...
And yes! I am awed and humbled by the welcome here.
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Date: 12/9/09 01:50 am (UTC)Stalking Sounis
Date: 12/9/09 01:53 am (UTC)Bekah
P.S. I really am not a creeper. I just love this site, but I tend to lose/forget passwords to everything. It is just easier not to join. I like squealing with everyone on this site, even if I don't comment.
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Date: 12/9/09 06:51 am (UTC)I was wondering. Because you read the books at a relatively young age did you have any difficulties understanding them? Obviously you loved (love!) them. And now that you are older do you catch more or do things come at you differently? They do for me!
I hope you join sometime!
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Date: 12/9/09 04:15 pm (UTC)My mom accidentally read the "The Queen of Attolia" first. She had seen it laying around the house. I was so mad at her! After she finished it she said, "We should get the first in the series. This was really good." Of course I scowled at her and said that we have the first book, and she just ruined the ending by reading "The Queen of Attolia". I know she appreciated the complexity of the whole series.
I think I'll join someday. Thanks!
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Date: 12/9/09 01:57 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 12/9/09 06:51 am (UTC)All you guys talking of moving the books in bookstores
Date: 12/9/09 07:14 pm (UTC)I kid you not. The King of Attolia was selling in Oxfam for £1.99. Vastly underpriced IMHO. What's more it hasn't been read. The spine is completely uncreased and the paperback creases very easily. I always complain and whine that I've NEVER EVER seen Megan's books in dead tree form in this country in a bookstore or a library. Even in the huge Waterstones in London which is supposed to be the biggest bookstore in Europe. Even in Forbidden Planet.
Some person in this city must have got this book as a present ordered all the way from the U.S. and not read it.
*sees book on bottom shelf*
Am I dreaming? *picks up, grumbles about it should be shelved in the sci-fi and fantasy section*
*wonders if she can dust it for fingerprints, wonders if someone accidently left it behind and that's how it ended up in the shop*
*buys*
On the way home my mind kept thinking up conspiracy theories that it was left there for me to find. This is what becomes of loving stories with such smart plotlines and mysteries.
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Date: 12/15/09 07:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 12/11/09 04:39 pm (UTC)The story from Phresine, I just realized since re-re-reading 'The Thief' a few weeks ago, is actually mentioned by the Magus as they are passing through Attolia. Specifically someone (I think Ambiades?) says that it's like an ocean, and Magus says it IS an ocean, and that it was planted in the name of some goddess, but no one remembers which one. Phresine obviously does though! I'm sure that there is more to the relevance of the story, the need for trust being one.
Perhaps what Eugenides was supposed to get out of the story was that everyone needs someone they can trust beside them, otherwise they will fail. This is important to the Queen of Attolia, who has cultivated a distrust of everyone, and it is relevant to Eugenides too, who hasn't been accustomed to relying on others either. Not in any significant way, anyhow.
I really hope that there is even more to this story, because isn't that always more fun?
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Date: 12/11/09 04:40 pm (UTC)