[identity profile] katecoombs.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] queensthief
I just got my Nov/Dec edition of The Horn Book Magazine, which has a handful of little one-page essays by various authors and publishing people with a "Snow Day" theme, as in, "What would you read if you were snowed in?" Cheryl Klein, senior editor at Arthur Levine (Scholastic) and blogger at Brooklyn Arden, says in part: "I love rereading The King of Attolia or Graceling or The Golden Compass under a blanket with that aforementioned mug of hot chocolate." Hooray! Especially for the REreading part!

Date: 11/16/10 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
/quietly wonders in the corner how reading Graceling in between King of Attolia and The Golden Compass works.

Date: 11/16/10 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drashizu.livejournal.com
/agrees

It wasn't quite... the same, was it?

Date: 11/16/10 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
...not...quite...

*coughs*

Date: 11/16/10 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-shulman.livejournal.com
My thought EXACTLY. Where on earth does Graceling, of all things, come in?

Date: 11/17/10 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
HAHAHAHAHAHA man I am trying so hard to be good. SO HARD. LOOK AT ME BEING GOOD. I'M BEING SO GOOD.










srsly though, editors who are supposed to know things about books. srsly.

Date: 11/17/10 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-shulman.livejournal.com
YES. And I have to say, I read her blog, and she likes Taylor Swift. And - I don't hate Taylor Swift, but I also don't think she's a songwriting genius.

Also: My 18th century lit professor just told us that she was grading an essay in which someone wrote that Taylor Swift wrote Gulliver's Travels. ON AN EXAM. WE DIED LAUGHING.

Date: 11/17/10 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-shulman.livejournal.com
Not to say that I dislike her! But she and I have different taste.

Date: 11/17/10 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
the editor or Kristen Cashore? also--if she's the one who talked about how "you made a rebel of a careless man's careful daughter" is a line of genius, IT IS A LINE OF GENIUS. too bad the lines around it are. not. however she does appeal to my inner fifteen year old (well, Fearless does--haven't listened to her new album, am a little concerned about baby Taylor Swift singing about moving in with people), so--guilty pleasure, I'll admit.

ALSO 18TH CENTURY LIT, WHAT ARE YOU READING?

Date: 11/17/10 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-shulman.livejournal.com
Yes - the editor, and YES that post, and YES I agree that line is genius. Yes. It is.

TONS OF GOOD STUFF like Alexander Pope, who's my favorite so far. We did Dryden and lots of Swift and long discussions on women who wrote then and misogyny and we're starting 18th century fiction with Tom Jones.

Also I just got an email that The King's Rose is waiting for me at my library! YAY

Date: 11/17/10 06:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
hahahahahahaha, I NEEDED ALL THE POSITIVITY IN THAT SENTENCE, SO THANK YOU FOR IT. :D :D :D

ooooooooooooh Pope. We did bits of all those guys in my Brit Lit II class, and then I took an entire class on 1790s feminist literature (conclusion: I'm glad y'all were so proactive for women's rights, but could you have been better are writing fiction :-/).

OOOOOOOOOOOOOH YAY I HOPE YOU LIKE IT. *bites nails*

Date: 11/17/10 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-shulman.livejournal.com
Ha I just reread it and I type tired, what can I say...

And I keep telling myself, every time I realize how much I dislike almost everything by Jane Austen (I'm taking an Austen class this semester as well, I don't know what I was thinking) - well, she practically pioneered the novel. So if she had pacing issues, and issues with voice and plot, it wasn't like she could have known better. Right? Right?

Date: 11/17/10 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-shulman.livejournal.com
That's supposed to be I sound tired. But I meant the positivity :)

Date: 11/17/10 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
hahahahahahahaha 'soky i'm tired too. :)

also re: Austen--it didn't help that a couple of her books were originally written all epistolary-style and then changed over. Her later books are better than the first ones? i--i forget publishing order though.

(now who sounds tired?)

Date: 11/17/10 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-shulman.livejournal.com
That's true! And it reminds me that apparently I need to read a book called The Ghosts of Ashbury High (I think!) even though I dislike all epistolary novels except Sorcery and Cecelia, because apparently it's brilliant. So thanks!

Date: 11/17/10 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
oh that sounds like fun!

except--you hate epistolary novels?

BRB LAUGHING FOREVER HAVE FUN WITH 18TH CENTURY LIT THEN

:-b

(I am less of a fan of the genre, but on the other hand, I probz would not have enjoyed Dangerous Liasons so much if I had not read other epistolary novels first.)

Date: 11/17/10 06:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-shulman.livejournal.com
OH NOOOOOO really? I don't hate them, but I think they're usually badly done. :O :O :O

Date: 11/17/10 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
well, that's uh, basically all there was in the 1700s. I mean I think there are some exceptions, and maybe Tom Jones is one of them, but generally speaking, they're all letters.

of course since that was the only form hanging around, they were probably better at it. right? right?

Date: 11/16/10 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brandy-painter.livejournal.com
I wonder often at the number of times I have seen Graceling mentioned in conjunction with the QT books (comparing it favorably). Glad you said this because I was beginning to think I missed something when I read it. I didn't hate it but I didn't think it was good enough to ever reread (and I think I skipped like 50 pages of it when I did read it).

Date: 11/17/10 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
my feelings on Graceling are well-documented under my "ranting" tag, I think. :-b I feel like it gets mentioned along with QT because, um, people have heard of Graceling.

/side rant about the injustice of the publishing world

Date: 11/17/10 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brandy-painter.livejournal.com
I am now interested in checking out this rant and will be doing so immediately. :)

Date: 11/17/10 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-shulman.livejournal.com
I didn't like it that much either. And I wouldn't put it in a sentence with the genius that is the other two. Although I might be biased because I loved them both.

Date: 11/17/10 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
(even though I disagree with Phillip Pullman's message and also think he sacrificed the awesome Amber Spyglass could have had in favor of said message, I still agree: Golden Compass is genius. it's SO GOOD.)

Date: 11/17/10 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-shulman.livejournal.com
YES I just discovered it a few months ago (because for some odd reason my family doesn't own it, even though we own EVERY OTHER children's fantasy series) and I LOVED IT. Although I do think it needs to be read as a series, because the books cut off abruptly. And then comes The Amber Spyglass :( Part of it was amazing, though, but his rhetoric distracts from his writing, so :( And it was SO SAD.

ironic icon choice is ironic?

Date: 11/17/10 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
OMG I KNOW RIGHT. Like, part of me is so sad they're not making more movies, because holy crap, hottie mchotface...Daniel Craig (oh God why am I not in bed) and Nicole Kidman would knock Asriel/Mrs. Coulter OUT OF THE PARK, and it would be GLORIOUS TO WATCH, and everything else would be mediocre-to-suck, but it would probably be worth it, just for them.

*coughs*

*probably heading to bed soon*

I LOVE TALKING BOOKS WITH YOU, ALL THE TIME. ♥

Re: ironic icon choice is ironic?

Date: 11/17/10 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-shulman.livejournal.com
YES YES (although the movie wasn't very good, at least Cleolinda's 15 minutes was fantastic. I think I will hunt it down now just for the *memories*

Sweet dreams! It was awesome talking books, as always :)

Date: 11/16/10 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drashizu.livejournal.com
Hooray for REreading, indeed! And go Scholastic/Arthur Levine for having such an awesome and well-read senior editor.

Date: 11/16/10 06:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elle-winters.livejournal.com
This idea of being under a blanket with a mug of hot chocolate and KoA

sounds ridiciously appealing.


/I will now go pray for a snow day

Date: 11/16/10 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com
Are you sure you didn't mean to say:

This idea of being under a blanket with a mug of hot chocolate and the King of Attolia sounds ridiculously appealing.

'cuz that's sort of what I thought it said. :P

Date: 11/17/10 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drashizu.livejournal.com
I don't know whether to gasp or bust out laughing. Since I did the latter, I guess that's my answer.

*totally agrees with Checkers' interpretation*

Date: 11/17/10 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com
Hey, I just call it like I see it. No one seems to be objecting too much, do they?

'Course, we haven't heard from elle. Yet. :)

Date: 11/17/10 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agh-4.livejournal.com
Obviously she's busy.

Date: 11/17/10 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com
*hands over the Head Reprobate Title*

Date: 11/17/10 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agh-4.livejournal.com
Oh, nay. That I cannot take.

Date: 11/17/10 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
CHECKERS

CHECKERS

I

do not object to this scenario one bit.

Date: 11/21/10 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elle-winters.livejournal.com
Thank goodness for creeping back through the posts, else I would never had noticed this reprobate-ish behavior, which I totally condemn, *ahem* Your Majesty Attolia


Mmmmm, King of Attolia I mean, hot chocolate

<3

Date: 11/16/10 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brandy-painter.livejournal.com
Someday, when a snow day actually again means I can curl up on the couch in a blanket with a warm drink and read a book, The King of Attolia will be my first choice. Now I spend snow days wrapping up little ones in too many layers of clothes and then unwrapping them again and cleaning melted snow puddles off the floor. But that is wonderful too.:)

Date: 11/17/10 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philia-fan.livejournal.com
Hmmmm, my Horn Book has not yet arrived.

*shakes fist at new mail carrier*

Date: 11/17/10 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-shulman.livejournal.com
Ooooh, you have a subscription? I've wanted one for the past year or so...

Is it as great as it sounds?

Date: 11/17/10 12:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philia-fan.livejournal.com
Since I write for kids, I find it useful and interesting and all that stuff. Also, I actually first found The Thief through a Horn Book review, so...yes!

Date: 11/17/10 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agh-4.livejournal.com
Yes. If everyone just settled down and read KoA, the world would be a better place.

Date: 11/23/10 03:07 am (UTC)
filkferengi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] filkferengi
Especially if they did it stylishly in non-matched socks. Obviously, the whole world needs to have a sock-swap [to the tune of "At The Hop"]

--or possibly "The Real Thing":

I'd like to teach the world to swap /
and all wear non-matched socks /
and hear the clamor through the land /
for more Eugenides!

Date: 11/25/10 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agh-4.livejournal.com
I quite agree! :D
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