Pronunciation
May. 20th, 2011 01:22 pmSoo...how does everyone pronounce the names?
Sounis: I say SO-NISS, though my mind tells me SUE-NISS.
Sounisian: I say SON-EE-ZHINZ, though my mind tells me SUE-NISS-EE-INZ.
Eddis: ED-DISS, or EE-DISS?
Eddisians: My mind says ED-DEE-ZHINZ, though my logic says ED-DISS-EE-INZ.
Attolia: AT-ALL-EE-AH, or AT-OH-LEE-AH?
Pol: POLE?
Sophos: My knowledge of Ancient Greek tells me SAW-FOSS, but might it be SO-FOESS?
Seperchia: SE-PEAR-KEY-AH?
Mede: MEAD? MEE-DEE? And Medes: MEADS? Or MEE-DEEZ?
Nahuseresh: Nah-HUH-Se-Resh?
Teleus: TEE-LEE-USS or TELL-EE-USS?
Erondites: My Ancient Greek-ness tells me AIR-ON-DIT-ACE (accent on DI), but I want to say AIR-ON-DITE-EASE.
Dite: DIT-AY? Or DIE-TEE?
Aristogiton: @_@. I'll leave this one open.
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Date: 5/20/11 05:54 pm (UTC)Sounis: SUE-niss
Sounisian: sue-NEE-sian
Eddis: ED-diss (though the Eddisians pronounce it EEE-diss)
Eddisians: ed-DISS-sians (again, ee-DISS-sians for the locals)
Attolia: at-TOH-lee-ah
Pol: POLE (long o, silent e of course)
Sophos: SO-fose (long o for both syllables)
Seperchia: suh-PER-key-ah
Mede: MEH-DEE
Medes: MEH-DEEZ
Nahuseresh: nah-HOO-suh-resh
Teleus: TEL-ee-us
Erondite: air-RON-dee-tay
Dite: DEE-TAY
Aristogiton: air-iss-TOG-ee-ton
No rhyme or reason for my pronunciation. Just what hit me when I first read it.
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Date: 5/20/11 05:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 5/20/11 06:00 pm (UTC)SOO-NISS
SOO-NIZ-EE-ANS
ED-ISS
ED-ISS-EE-ANS
AT-TOLL-EE-A
POL
SO-FOSS
SEP-ER-CHEE-A
MEAD
NA-HOOZ-A-RESH
TEE-LEE-USS
AIR-ON-DIE-TEEZ
DIE-TEE
A-RIST-OH-GUY-TON
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Date: 5/20/11 06:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 5/20/11 06:05 pm (UTC)A = ah
E = ay/eh
I = ee
O = oh
U = oo
ch = k
Exceptions: Sounis is SOO-niss, not soh-OO-nees, and Sounizians is so-NEE-see-ans. Eddis is EH-dees, and Eddisians is eh-DEE-zee-ans.
Attolia: ah-TOHL-ya
Attolis: ah-TOHL-ees
Attolians: ah-TOHL-yuns
Pol: pohl/pole
Sophos: SOH-fohs
Seperchia: seh-PEHR-kee-ah
Mede: MEH-deh
Medes: MEH-dehs
Nahuseresh: nah-HOO-seh-rehsh
Teleus: teh-LEH-oos
Erondites: EH-rohn-DEE-tehs
Aristogiton: EH-reest-OH-ghee-tohn (hard g, like in "go")
Irene is ee-REH-neh, of course. Eye-reen, no way. Eye-reen belongs in a Van Morrison song. :P
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Date: 5/20/11 07:29 pm (UTC)However, when reading Thief aloud to my husband on car trips, I was very careful to say Ee-dis when Gen was speaking and Ed-dis when the magus was, at least until the end when the magus had to (presumably) bow on the question of who was saying the country's name right. =) Thereafter I just used Ee-dis.
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Date: 5/20/11 08:45 pm (UTC)ED-DIS (Even though Gen tells the Magus that the natives say EE-DIS)
And while I don't understand this Pol is like Paul
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Date: 5/20/11 09:59 pm (UTC)Of course, my sister asked me why on earth I was listening to a sound-recording of a book I've already read! I offered, "It's Megan Whalen Turner. Duh..." XD
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Date: 5/20/11 09:37 pm (UTC)I say Aed-DEEZ'-E-en for Eddisian. Again, the "ez" slips into that mutilated "is". (Third syllable long E, fourth short.)
Medo-Persian is my current favorite word.
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Date: 5/20/11 09:39 pm (UTC)I think my mind is going. The fever/cold/sore throat thing is BAAAD. (Pronounced baaaaah)
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Date: 5/20/11 10:29 pm (UTC)Sounis: SO-'NISS
Sounisian: SO-'NEE-SEE-AN
(I'm guessing I must have missed out on something, since there's a lot of people here saying SUE-NISS)
Eddis: EE-'DISS (Though I admit I used to say "ED-DISS" until I read that little argument between the Magus and Gen in The Thief)
Eddisian: EE-'DEE-SEE-AN
Attolia: AH-'TOLL-EE-AAH. And also, for some reason, EH-TOLL-EE-AH. Still scratching my head on the latter.
Sophos: SO-FOESS (Though Sophocles, the poet, is SAW-FOE-KLEESE.)
Seperchia: SE-PERK-EE-AH
Pol: POLE
Mede: MEE-DAY
(I don't think I've ever said "Medes," the plural for "Mede" has always been "Mede," like "those Mede jerks" and "those Mede." I guess "Medes" would be "MEE-DAYZ")
Nahuseresh: 'NAH-WHO-SE-"RESH
Teleus: TEL-EH-US
Erondites: AIR-'ON-"DEE-TES (The "r" might be ambisyllabic, so AIR-RON-DEE-TAYZ)
Dite: DEE-TAY (Though I'm thinking it should be "DIGHT-TEE" like Aphrodite)
Aristogiton: AIR-'ISS-TOH-"GI-TON (Ambisyllabic "r" again, so more like AIR-RISS-TOH-GI-TON. Also, I'm inconsistent here, because I've got Erondites' "E" pronounced the same way as the "A" in "Aris." Drat!)
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Date: 5/21/11 06:05 pm (UTC)French influence on English pronunciation! Think about the way "soup" is pronounced, or "route". Or "roux", but that's a cognate.
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Date: 5/21/11 09:58 pm (UTC)See, I thought it was mentioned in the books somewhere (in the form of some overt pronunciation argument between Gen and the Magus or something similar), or that it was some Greek pronunciation of the orthographic "OU" that I missed out on.
Or that it was a diphthong - still trying to figure out the diphthong explanation, though, because the only thing I've got is the "OU" from "LOUD" and that gets me "SOW-NISS". And that just sounds awful. I really doubt this though. My research
that is, looking through linguistics articles on wikipediasays that "OU" in Greek is approximately a long "U" in English, so like "BOOT."I think I might be influenced by Japanese vowels, I guess, given "OU" in Japanese is an orthographic representation of a long "O" sound.
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Date: 5/21/11 04:00 am (UTC)Another pronunciation for Mede crossed my mind. Has anyone said it like MAY-DAY?
I'm actually kinda surprised at how many people say the -dite(s) of Erondites with a short I and long A. That's how I say it, but I can't help but think it should be pronounced analogously with Aphrodite, you know, DIE-TEE.
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Date: 5/21/11 04:18 am (UTC)Sounisian: SUE-NEES-EE-INZ
Edis: EE-DISS
Eddisians: EE-DEE-SEE-INZ
Attolia: AT-OH-LEE-AH
Pol: PAL
Sophos: varies! : P
Mede: MEAD
Medes: MEADS
Nahuseresh: NAH-HUH-SAH-RESH
Teleus: TELL-EE-USS
Aristogiton: AHRIS-TOE-GITE-ON
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Date: 5/21/11 04:54 am (UTC)Warning: I frequently pronounce stuff incorrectly. English is my dominant language, but if I can't pronounce it, I fall back to a more Korean/Japanese type pronounciation.
Sounis: SUE-NISS
Sounisian: SUE-NISS-SI-UN
Eddis: I imagine the Eddisians pronounce it AE-DISS while everyone else says EH-DISS.
Eddisian: AE-DISS-SI-UN/EH-DISS-SI-UN
Attolia: UH-TOLL-LI-A
Pol: POLE
Sophos: SO-PHUS
Seperchia: SEH-PERK-E-AH
Mede: MEAD
Medes: MEADS
Nahuseresh: NA-WHO-SHER-RESH
Erondites: ERON-DITES
Teleus: TEH-LAY-US
Aristogiton: ARIS-TOG-GI-TON
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Date: 5/22/11 05:08 am (UTC)So:
Soo niss, soo nee jans
I go back and forth between ed diss and ee diss, but mostly ee diss.
ed dee jans
uh toll ee uh (or uh toll ee yuh)
pole
so foess
seh perch ee yuh
mead, meads
na chu (like the Hebrew letter chet with an oo sound) seresh (like the hebrew vowel)
tell eh (like the canadian eh?) us
aaron dite eez
die tee
BTW, I'm from Chicago, where Devon is pronounced d'von.
Eugenides?
Date: 5/22/11 12:14 pm (UTC)Whats your take?
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Date: 5/22/11 02:06 pm (UTC)Sounis: SUE-niss.
Sounisian: I say SUE-niss-ee-an
Eddis: ED-ISS
Eddisians: ED-iss-ee-an
Attolia: AT-OH-Lee-an
Pol: Paul
Sophos: So-fohs (look up how MWT says it in recorded interviews, and that's how I pronounce it)
Seperchia: Sa-per-kee-ah
Mede: Mead
Nahuseresh: Nah-Hoo-Ser-esh
Teleus: Tell-ee-us
Erondites: Yer-ond-it-eez
Dite: Die-tee
Aristogiton: Air-ist-oh-j-eye-ton
And Eugenides is like: Yew-gen-ih-deez
Lol that was fun!
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Date: 5/26/11 02:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 5/26/11 06:12 am (UTC)Before that, I always thought it was "SAY-YAWN-US," since the Roman god "Janus" was pronounced "YAWN-US" (as far as I know).
To be honest, I like saying "SUH-JANE-US" mostly because it reminds me of how my professor told us how the historical Sejanus was a backstabbing Machiavellian sycophant whose stealthy attempts to succeed in his ambitions took an epic fail and I thought: "That is Sejanus exactly!"