[identity profile] dgfduck.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] queensthief
Hopefully you all just happen to know that there is in fact quite a decent Wikipedia article for The Thief (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thief_%281996_novel%29)
I made it so most of the stuff written there is mine (check the history)
Any who, please feel free to improve it and maybe even get a little ambitious by adding the sequels.
Random Fact!: Sophos = Latin for "Wise", whereas sophos is root of Sophomore, morus = fool
sophomore = wise fool(?)

Date: 1/29/07 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com
Ooh, yeah, I've seen those! Maybe I'll see if I can work on those sometime this week...The series really deserves some good entries for the sequels.

Hm..wise fool...maybe it means you know a lot, but you still have a lot to learn?

Date: 1/29/07 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philia-fan.livejournal.com
Sophos is Greek, actually, which makes sense if you think about it.
-Philia, former Classics major (a long, long time ago!)

Date: 1/29/07 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com
philia, do you have an email address where I could email you? I wanted to ask you something. You could email me at my lj name at yahoo.com, then I could answer you back with my question. If not, that's ok, too. Thanks.

Date: 1/29/07 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com
One thing I've wondered is this--should the Wikipedia article totally give away the surprise ending of the book? I'd rather it didn't, personally. No other reviews anywhere do that. What do you think, [livejournal.com profile] dgfduck?

Date: 1/30/07 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kilerkki.livejournal.com
I'm with you on this; I think the initial part of the article, giving the set-up, is great, but I don't think the summary of the book needs to be...quite so summary-ish. We want people to go read the book itself, after all!

Giveaway?

Date: 1/30/07 12:30 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
On just about all book wikis, it clearly says "warning : spoilers"

Date: 1/30/07 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anon8.livejournal.com
I completely agree with Checkers. I would much rather the review not give away the ending, or so much of the plot details. We would want viewers of the page to be enticed into reading/buying the book after all!

One of the main characteristics that has made The Thief so popular is the ironic/twist ending, partly because it is such, and partly because it is uniquely accomplished on the author's part. To reveal the ending would defeat its appeal.

Hopefully this is not too nitpicky but: I personally would like the map on the page to be removed. It is a fictional world reminiscent of ancient Greece/Byzantine era, but it does not have a physical representation in the actual Mediterranean. While that is a fan rendition, I fear it will mislead casual readers of the page into assuming that it does in fact revolve around classical Greek topography and gods (which it clearly does not). Also, Eddis is described as having almost no natural harbors in the book, but in the fan marked map, this is not apparent and may also be misleading to prospective readers.

thanks for listening~

Date: 1/29/07 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emerald-happy.livejournal.com
I thought Sophos was Greek. Oh well...

Date: 1/29/07 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
"Sophos" is indeed Greek. Remember, the Romans stole almost all of the basis for their society from the Greeks, including a great deal of language, and then adapted it to suit their own purposes. They just expanded into everywhere Alexander the Great had conquered (except not as far...oh, Alexander, why did you have to get sick and die?); the major culture of the time, however, was Hellenistic.

(Feel free to tell me how wrong I am, Philia. It's been a while since I've done ancient history. ^_^)

but yeah, "sophomore" does mean "wise fool." It's one of the first things they tell you (...or at least they told me) when you become a sophomore in high school. (You're no longer a freshman, so you have the wisdom of experience, but you're stupid enough to think you have enough wisdom to actually make good decisions. :-b)

Date: 1/29/07 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philia-fan.livejournal.com
Hey, Jade, it's been twenty-five years since I studied Classics! Bet it hasn't been that long for you.

Date: 1/30/07 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceecee44.livejournal.com
When my principle told us that I didn't know whether to feel proud or insulted.
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