[identity profile] mollyringle.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] queensthief
So I'm re-reading The Queen of Attolia, and I just now picked up on a bit of wordplay that I never noticed before, even though it's literally on the cover.

I have this edition, with the quote on it, "Steal peace, Eugenides. Steal me some time."

And the name "Irene" means "peace." Ha. I (finally) see what they did there. Clever.

Btw, I also didn't realize there was a Eugenides Wiki until now. Cool!

Date: 1/9/16 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
"So many things are obvious in retrospect, aren't they?"

Date: 1/9/16 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com
The wordplay with the names Irene and Helen are great, aren't they? And typical MWT fashion that we get the hints in reverse order. Not "Irene means peace" and THEN "steal peace", but the opposite.

Now if only we knew the Magus's name!

I have that paperback cover, too. It is completely falling apart and full of notes written in the margins. Some of the reprobates here have called that the "Gen as a rapist in a boat" cover. He does look pretty diabolical, doesn't he?

Date: 1/11/16 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drashizu.livejournal.com
I hope so! I have been waiting to learn the MoW's name since we met him in The Thief.

Date: 2/17/16 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aged-crone.livejournal.com
Fred. And Joe.

How could you have missed that?

Date: 1/9/16 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] an-english-girl.livejournal.com
Of course, there's the play on the meaning of Eugenides while he's pretending to be gutter scum in the first place.
Plus Agape, whose name means non-romantic love, and Erondites the Younger's abbreviation is linked to Aphrodite...

Date: 1/11/16 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drashizu.livejournal.com
The Dite thing! I'd never noticed...

Date: 1/11/16 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] an-english-girl.livejournal.com
A couple of more tentative name connections:
Teleus ("no sense of humour") shares the first part of his name with Telamon, father of the Homeric Ajax. I quote from Sophocles:
"...poor Telamon, as if he ever smiled, even at good news..."
Ambiades is a combination of ambiguous and the Spartan traitor Alkebiades.
Anyone got any leads on Pol?

Date: 1/12/16 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] an-english-girl.livejournal.com
"For a moment we sat quietly thinking our own thoughts about ambition. I thought about Pol, who had seemed to be quite free of it..."
Seems to fit!

just wondering

Date: 1/11/16 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That was one of my favourites. Actually Helen says "steal me peace and steal me time" or something like that. And Gen goes out and first steals the Magus then Irene. That is why I always wondered what the the actual name of the Magus was. Probably Kronos, but I do not remember if it was stated anywhere in the books.
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