Thick as Thieves Speculation - Everything We Know

[ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com]

So, I've had a cup of tea and a moment to calm down, and have (mostly) silienced my internal screaming. It's time to review everything we know about book five and update our theories.

There may be minor SPOILERS in this post, so if you don't want to know anything about the book other than the title and cover before you read it, please do not click.


Title: Thick as Thieves (TaT?)

Page Length: 400 pages (source) That's longer than all the other books.

Megan informed me that this is false information. 352 pages is the count currently listed on Amazon.

Release Date: May 16, 2017


Cover-




Details -

A burning ship on the waves.

A dock with two dock ladders.

A female figure in a flowing dress with her hair in a bun.

Two figures walking together that appear to be male

A gold building, a megaron I assume, with birds in flight overhead

Hills.


The Keywords-

"dirt. gold. slave. lion. ship." (source)

(There's a ship on fire on the front cover! What does it mean?)


MWT-

Book 5 is the second half of The King of Attolia. (source)

Book 5 was re-written into first person from third person. (source) There has been speculation that the book is written from a new character's POV.


Theories, reprobates?

Is part of the book going to take place at sea? Will Pirate!Sophos finally be realized? Who set the ship on fire? Are we going to have a Queen Liz vs. the Spanish Armada battle between the Tri-nation Alliance of Eugenides (I just made that up) and the Mede?

Is Costis going to return as a major player if this book is picking up where KoA left off?

Whose megaron is that?

Who are the people walking and the woman standing by herself?

Is the slave Megan talking about Kamet? He did escape with Nahusersquish on a ship. Was Kamet kidnapped by pirates and eventually became one himself? Is this book turning into the Princess Bride?


GUYS!!! PIRATES!!!!!!


*really wants pirates to be in this book

I will try to add new information to this post as it becames available. If you see anything missing, please post it in the comments.

Comments

[hazelwillow.livejournal.com]

SPOILERS

BOOK JACKET SUMMARY

SPOILERS!!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

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Kamet, a secretary and slave to his Mede master, has the ambition and the means to become one of the most powerful people in the Empire. But with a whispered warning the future he envisioned is wrenched away, and he is forced onto a very different path. Set in the world of the Queen’s Thief, this epic adventure sees an ordinary hero take on an extraordinary mission. The Queen’s Thief novels have been praised by writers, critics, reviewers, and fans, and have been honored with glowing reviews, “best of” citations, and numerous awards, including the Los Angeles Times Book Prize, a Newbery Honor, the Andre Norton Award shortlist, and the Mythopoeic Fantasy Award. Discover and rediscover the stand-alone companion stories The Thief, The Queen of Attolia, The King of Attolia, and A Conspiracy of Kings, all epic novels set in the world of the Queen’s Thief. Thick as Thieves includes two maps, a map of the world of the Queen’s Thief, and a map of Kamet’s journey.


Source:
https://www.amazon.com/Thick-as-Thieves-Queens-Thief-ebook/dp/B01LYAWJ19/

Thanks to Mikkaybear on tumblr!

[ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com]

Awesome sauce! It is going to be told from Kamet's POV. First person Kamet! Who's excited!

#LostAtSea
#PirateKamet
#KametAsGoodGuy
#WeHeartKamet
#Kamet&CostisBFFS

[readsintrees.livejournal.com]

It includes a map????!!! I may be more excited about this than anything else. I need this! Also, if anyone hears if MWT is going to do any book signings, tell us ASAP!

[ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com]

There's going to be a map in each of the new editions as well!

MAAAPPPPP!

Plus, new short stories in the new QoA and KoA!

[rj-anderson.livejournal.com]

You know, as I was reading all the stuff above, I was thinking HOW COOL WOULD IT BE IF KAMET WAS THE MAIN CHARACTER??? and then I got to the summary and woooooo, I am so on board with this I can't even tell you. Finally we get a Mede perspective! And I've always loved Kamet - he was clearly too good to be stuck serving Nahuserfish.

[manderelee.livejournal.com]

Count me as one of the people who are SHOCKED that it's about Kamet!! I never entertained the idea before! This would be a really fun ride. I think it'll be great to get a glimpse of the other side of the story.

[ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com]

There was speculation that book 5 may be about Kamet even before CoK was released. It is a logical way to continue the story beyond Eugenides's sphere of influence.

I was hopeful about the Kamet theory, as I really liked the idea. So glad to see it's happening!

[rj-anderson.livejournal.com]

Also, there may or may not be an elephant in this book. (Probably not, as MWT said it was more likely to be in the next one, but you never know.) http://enchantedinkpot.livejournal.com/50628.html

[beth-shulman.livejournal.com]

Not gonna lie, the first thing I thought yesterday was, "FINALLY, WE WILL MEET THE ELEPHANT."

[rj-anderson.livejournal.com]

I know, right? Priorities firmly in order!

[mikkaybear.livejournal.com]

lol I only discovered it because I preordered both the hardcover and the Kindle copy :')

Keywords & Title

[ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com]

Taking the keywords in the context that this book is going to be about Kamet...

Slave and Ship are obvious. Though I should make the connection from burning ship to Kamet setting Nahusersquish's rooms on fire in QoA

#ArsonKamet

Does the gold refer to the gold Nahusersquish gave Irene before he escaped? Is he going to pass the blame onto Kamet? Maybe, Kamet betrays him in turn.

Dirt could be literally Kamet is dirty in this book or it could be a reference to he is as common as dirt.

Lion puzzels me the most. CoK made a clear association between lions and Sophos. Is Sophos going to become BFFs with Kamet? Is their shared slave status going to be a factor? Should I be taking that more literally? Is Kamet fighting lions in a gladiator arena?

#Lion'sKamet
#Don'tGetEatenbyLionsKamet

Does Kamet become the new thief? Is he as thick as thieves with Gen or someone else? Costis?

#Costis&KametThickasThieves

Re: Keywords & Title

[rj-anderson.livejournal.com]

The idea of a Costis and Kamet tag-team is giving me life right now. I mean, there has to be SOME reason that Gen was drilling Costis on his Mede vocabulary...

[1221bookworm.livejournal.com]

Definitely sure Costis is somewhere in Media by now ..... didn't make the connection that he's the one that's going to be thick with anyone - but it does make sense because Costis has agreed to serve Gen's god, the god of thieves.

[ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com]

Sorry, that autocorrect is making me laugh. Mostly, because of images of Costis infiltrating the media as an anchor newsman. Gen would point and say that's my PR guy.

I like the popular theory that Costis is spying in Medea. Maybe, Kamet betrays Nahuserquish to help Costis. Ekk! Gen was trying to teach him the language. Hmm...? Hint or redherring?

Re: Keywords & Title

[mikkaybear.livejournal.com]

I think you're right about the lion thing... if you notice, the male figure on the left of TaT matches one they used on the new cover for The Thief. I thought it was Eugenides, but now I think it might be Sophos!

...except we already KNOW what happened to Sophos during the events of KoA-CoK. And we know where Eugenides was. Maybe not in the gap between KoA and CoK, but I never thought that was very long.

So maybe the figure is Costis, and they just got lazy in designing. XD

EXCEPT one could also assume that is Attolia standing on the left? It looks like I'd expect Attolia to look. So is she looking after the men, or is she standing watch over her kingdom?

Holy Kamet, Eugenides!

[ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com]

So, I assume the book will either flashback to Kamet's initial escape from Attolia in QoA or start there.

We should be getting a look at Medea through Kamet's eyes and it will be so interesting to hear his first person voice on his master.

Alternatively, the ship on fire is the same ship Kamet escaped on and he and Nahsersquish never made it back to Medea. However, I feel Gen&Friends would've heard if their mortal enemy was lost at sea, unless the Mede covered it up.

Backstory- How did Kamet become a slave? I must know!

A whispered warning implies Kamet betrays Nahusersquish, which is what starts him an his epic journey. Since, there is going to be two maps, I assume at least part of this journey does not take place in the Tri-nation Alliance.

Kamet must end up getting involved with Gen&Friends somehow. Is he captured? Recruited? Does he break in and leave notes for the queen? He does have a crush on her!

I am wondering if Kamet becomes the new thief. He is clever enough. I kinda always assumed he would be the new spymaster, if Relius was no longer mentally fit to do it.

Ultimately, I'm really curious to see Kamet's journey and how he gets from Nahusersquish's slave to being a major player in the dynamics of the book.

[freenarnian.livejournal.com]

HUZZAH! I've been so into the idea of it being from Kamet's POV that I sorta forgot we hadn't had that confirmed... until now! I hope he runs into Costis at some point. :)

[1221bookworm.livejournal.com]

This post. Made me late for work! (Ok, I actually did make it in with one minute to spare .....)

Good news is it woke my sister up - and got her out of bed!!

(So one Eugenides says go to bed, and the other makes people jump out of bed.... pretty good match up!).

[ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com]

Sorry? Were we being noisy? :D

[(Anonymous)]

One really GOOD thing we can tell from MWT saying she's working on Book 6: Gen must still be alive and well at the end of TaT!
And I do think this was a legitimate concern, considering she has already stuck a sword through him in TT and chopped his hand off in QoA!
an_english_girl [logged out]

[checkers65477.livejournal.com]

And another sword in him, in KoA. Poor guy.

Whisper of warning...

[an-english-girl.livejournal.com]

My brother pointed out that in the books so far, whispers and warnings tend be from Moira, rather than the human characters. And she has certainly visited the Medes before...
The gods have not forgotten the King of Attolia?