Everyone's favourite: age of characters!

[sandtree.livejournal.com]

Okay, I know that this has been discussed and discussed and discussed again, and then discussed some more, but I finally got the paperback of KoA today and read the Eddis short story (I'm a bit slow), so it got me thinking (dangerous).

My point is, it seems we basically have an answer for the age of Eugenides now, right? Because the short story says there's a five year age difference between him and Eddis, and if he's ten in that other short story in which Eddis is about to become Queen (which I've never actually read, so I could be off), and in The Thief, Eddis has been Queen for five years, then Eugenides is fifteen in The Thief, and Eddis is twenty.

My OTHER reason for posting, is, I just noticed that in QoA, Eddis tells Eugenides to steal peace, and Attolia's name (Irene), means peace, and he steals her. This was probably completely obvious to everyone but me, but like I said... slow. XD

Okay, back to your regularly scheduled... stuff.

Comments

[agentmaly.livejournal.com]

Yay! I bought the paperback KoA in Chicago with Victoria and still haven't actually read the short story. Not because I didn't want to, either. I was waiting for the perfect night when I could curl up in bed and read it, and obviously those don't really happen while I'm in school. And then I forgot.

I really need to ask Rowana to send me the Disney Adventures story. I believe she is the keeper of it.

See, this challenges my cherished notion that Eugenides is seventeen in The Thief, though. Because then he would be my age, which is why it's especially imperative that I re-read before the year is over. :D

As to Irene meaning peace - yeah, I noticed that right away. XD Sorry, Alison. I'll use the Ron icon to make it up to you.

[sandtree.livejournal.com]

I know. Yesterday, I was just like, "...OH." I just had to post and let everyone know that I finally caught on. XD

I guess Eugenides could actually be sixteen in The Thief, because if Eddis was 'about to become Queen', then that could have meant in the next year, so there you go. But like I said, I haven't read the story, so I actually have no idea what I'm talking about. XD

[kilerkki.livejournal.com]

Ah, but if he were 15 in The Thief, he might be 17 in QoA. Which is just as exciting, isn't it?

[sandtree.livejournal.com]

Let's just put it this way: he was 17 at some point!

[agentmaly.livejournal.com]

XD

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XD

[agentmaly.livejournal.com]

Well, but if he had been 17 in The Thief, then I can re-read every year until the new one comes out and be the same age as him at different stages! And then when the new one comes out it will keep going! Whereas I read them for the first time at 16, so Eugenides being 15 in The Thief is unacceptable. 16 I could live with. :P

Besides, I have more qualms about being the same age as Eugenides in QoA, because that means if I'm living through him vicariously with the age and re-read thing, I would have to vicariously get my hand cut off. I'm not prepared for that yet.

[sandtree.livejournal.com]

You're lucky, I'll turn twenty next year and start complaining about my advanced age just like Attolia.

Not that I didn't do that already.

[sandtree.livejournal.com]

And I appreciate your use of the Ron icon.

Another thing I was way behind on was the Magus/Helen idea. I was like, "Oh no, what is this nonsense in my head!" and then I saw all these posts in the archives of the community about it. So.

[agentmaly.livejournal.com]

Yes, Magus/Helen is pretty awfully established. This is a clear indication you should listen to the nonsense in your head more often. And share it with the rest of us. By which I mean I want to read your Nano when you're done. :D

[sandtree.livejournal.com]

I turned into this giant Magus/Helen shipper overnight, and I have no idea how it happened. I mean, I still think it would make more sense for her to marry Sophos, if he's still alive, which he probably is. But...!

I'm probably going to post my NaNo on my livejournal when I'm done, but I can't imagine anyone will be able to get through the whole thing without falling asleep or jumping off a cliff.

[peggy-2.livejournal.com]

the other part of the Irene = Peace equation was Eddis scoffing at being named Helen => Helen of Troy, the face a war was fought over. Yet Sounis went to war in order to make Eddis his queen, and Gen refused to side with Attolia because of his loyalty and love for Eddis.

LOL about the age comment! As soon as I read the story I sent Megan a note saying (besides now wonderful the story was) that it was quite sneaky of her to make the students do maths over their holidays, since every one would immediately be adding ages and dates together to figure out how old Gen was in Thief. :D

[sandtree.livejournal.com]

As soon as I read that part, I began frantically counting on my fingers, "Nine minus four! Nine minus four! That's... five years!" XD

[agentmaly.livejournal.com]

Regarding Helen and the war, HA! That more subtle point went right past me. Thank you for that piece of enlightenment.

[sandtree.livejournal.com]

Oh, see, I got that one! So you got the Irene one, and I got the Helen one. We are clearly destined to operate as a pair.

[agentmaly.livejournal.com]

Oh yes. But we knew that already. :D

Now I really want to use my 'It'll be romantic, I swear' joke. But I can't figure out how to work it in. I need an icon with that joke. Do you even know which one I'm talking about?

[bookaddict88.livejournal.com]

Oh wow. See...I didn't get the point about Helen OR the one about Irene. I must just be really slow...

[rosaleeluann.livejournal.com]

I'm glad I'm not the only slow one here. We can make a club. We could call it "The club for people who joined this community because they are are slow and therefore need the smarter people in the community to explain everything to them."

I'd be president. And theres no way you're as slow as me, so you can be a honorary member.

[aged-crone.livejournal.com]

One of my early posts when I joined was about a year ago, and I also pointed out that Eddis tells Gen to steal time for her, too. At the time (no pun intended) I was thinking that if a character named "Chronos" turned up I'd know that at some point Gen would kidnap him. Now I wonder if perhaps that's the Magus' name, since he, too, was stolen! : )

[philia-fan.livejournal.com]

Hmm, do you think this is why Megan changed the subject when Checkers asked about the magus's name??

[checkers65477.livejournal.com]

And it was done quite adroitly.

[aged-crone.livejournal.com]

Or it might be that she takes sadistic glee in tormenting us, when she isn't pulling the wings off of flies or pouring salt on slugs.

I said "might," mind you; I didn't actually *accuse* her of anything. Because I am sweet and innocent and would never dream of doing such a thing.

[sandtree.livejournal.com]

Clever!

[checkers65477.livejournal.com]

You know, if his name is Chronos, that would explain why he keeps it a secret and prefers to be called "Magus."

[aged-crone.livejournal.com]

"My name is Fugit. Tempus Fugit."

[ivorysilk]

hmm. I always thought he was older, eighteen or nineteen in the Thief, and while I'd known he was five years younger than Helen, and Helen is not yet thirty ... I think I missed the story where he was ten and Helen was almost Queen. Which one was that?