Questions!! I have QUESTIONS :D

[elle-winters.livejournal.com]

I recently joined Sounis and well...I've just had so many questions, there is a good chance that they have all been throughly discussed already, but who doesn't love a good discussion?

The Theif
1. Gen says something about how his father came into the library and asked him if he knew about Sounis's purposal to Eddis, and then MoW leaves, leaving a bag of coins on Gen's desk. The scene is pretty vague. Did MoW want Gen to go out and find the H-gift? Is this when MoW accepts that Gen is a theif?

2. Gen says the magus couldn't possibly have known if he had a sweetheart because he changed his records...does this allude the possiblity that he has? had a sweetheart/s that is? Its a stupid question, I mean I dont think he has, but I think it was possible that everyone in Eddis's court expected a courtship with the Queen's cousin Agape?

KoA
1. In the Theif and QoA Gen is pretty pissed about Sounis trying marry Eddis but in the King, Gen actually suggests it.(that Eddis marry Sounis) WHY?

Eddis also asks the Magus himself, her reasoning is because Gen is the KING of Attolia. Does that pose a threat to her?

2. Gen goes into the prison cell to see Relius
a. He shouts "I CAN DO ANYTHING I WANT" is Gen messing with Teleus, or is he honestly upset?

b. Later when his Eddisian cousins come they ask "did he think that was the king of attolia talking" what do they mean? Did Gen say it out of anger, was it actually the Theif of Eddis talking?

c. Possible Relius and Attolia? (one sided of course)
Gen says to Relius 'you must hate her now' he seems pretty serious and almost hopeful (not sure exactly about the quote), was Gen actually hoping Relius would hate attolia?
in one scene he also kisses Attolia and laughs asking Rel if he's jealous (I'm assuming its because he gets to kiss the queen? but being Gen he kisses Rel on the head too :)

There is point when one of the Attolians brings up Gen's cousins and how they held him down in a catchet of water until he insulted his family...Ornon says something like "they didnt know how close to danger they had come"
would Gen actually have him executed? I dont think so, but then what possible danger could Gen have posed?

Oh and at the end of KOA Gen apologizes to Teleus for "what was done but not done well" or something like that...but I think he's done pretty well...so why apologize?

Comments

[harlyn.livejournal.com]

It's been too long since I read The Thief, so I'm not sure there...

For the King of Attolia questions...
1) Yes--Gen's status as King of Attolia is kind of a threat. His #1 loyalty used to be Helen, and now it's the kingdom of Attolia. I remember at some point the Magus and Eddis having an uncomfortable conversation (in QoA maybe?) about how now Attolia has an exceptionally strong executive branch, between Gen and Irene, and how the power structure of the entire region had been realigned.
2) I would agree with Checkers. I remember it being implied that "I can do anything I want!" was a phrase anyone who grew up with Gen was very familiar with. And I think he responded to Teleus on instinct, the way he does when *anyone* tries to tell him what he can or can't do.
2c)Relius certainly loves the queen, but maybe in a hero-worship way more than a romantic way. I took from that scene that Relius now loves Gen as well, and will serve them both given a chance. Or maybe Gen was just being funny?
2d) In The Thief Gen says outright that he hates killing people, doesn't want to kill people, and for that reason does not want to be a soldier. I don't think he would have actually executed them, but it's possible he might have done something he regretted (or let the Queen do something he would have regretted) if he was angry enough. This story is from the perspective of people around Gen, and they come to realize that Gen is extremely unpredictable, and prone to getting what he wants. Ornon knows him better than your average Attolian, but he also knows very well that Gen has a vicious temper. In the end, I don't think he would have done them any violence unless they'd done something much worse than insult him.

These are great questions--I hadn't realized just how much Gen had changed since The Thief. What do you think?

[harlyn.livejournal.com]

Oh, and I think he apologized for Teleus for trying to get him fired when it wasn't necessary. Which confused me--I never understood why he thought getting rid of Teleus would be easier than getting Teleus on his side...

[elle-winters.livejournal.com]

Well now that I think about it, Teleus kind of reminds me of MoW...I think Gen probably thought it was better to get rid of him altogether because he would never agree to reducing the guard?

[tearoha.livejournal.com]

I don't think Gen was actually trying to get Relius fired (you mean in the scene at the beginning of KoA when Gen ties Teleus and Costis' fates together - "like a ball to drag him down"?). He knows that Attolia can't afford to lose Teleus and will not fire him for this, and Attolia knows he knows this and realises he's up to something and to go along with it for the moment, although it annoys her. Gen knows Attolia will know that he knows she knows - ok, yes, I'm just being silly now.

But I think just as Costis was not really in danger of being put to death by Gen, Teleus wasn't really in danger of being fired.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah I agree
I think he may have wanted to get rid of him
but had no actual intention of doing so

you know? hahaha

El

[elle-winters.livejournal.com]

Gen has no doubt changed soooo much since the Theif! It's ridiculously amazing charactization and character developement!
I wish we had prequal or something from before Eddis and mwt has already written two. *crosses fingers* maybe there'll be one in the CoKs paperback :Dd