[identity profile] readsintrees.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] queensthief
So....is Helen/Eddis marries Sophos/Sounis....does she also become Sounia? We know she chose to be called Eddis instead of Eddia, despite her gender. Would she accept the name of Sounia?

OR is it just generally going to be assumed that she has no power over the country of Sounis and HE'll have no power of the country of Eddis, so there's no need for them to take respective titles?

On an unrelated note, a coworker asked if the book I was reading was related to my computer wallpaper. No, not exactly...but in a way...

Date: 7/7/17 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] more-ruthless.livejournal.com
Sounis and Eddis have (independently?) pledged to Attolis.
Sounis first, and required of Eddis for approval of marriage by Attolis.
With respect to non-internal matters (only).

I don't recall it being mentioned in CoK about the relationship between Sounis and Eddis with respect to governance of Sounis/Eddis internally.
In fact, very little is even alluded to in TaT about the internal matters of Sounis and Eddis.

However, Ornon is now Eugenides' ambassador to Medea, and Ornon is of Eddis, so that would indicate with respect to international/external matters, the 3 countries are unified under the (sole) leadership of Attolis/Eugenedes.

Did I get that right???


I imagine as the OP below said...

Date: 7/20/17 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 11rod88staff11.livejournal.com
that even despite the unification of their countries their names and titles would change. They'd still be Sounis Sophos and Eddis Helen.

Thank you for mentioning that special touch-- that the Eddisian Ornon, once ambassador to Attolia for Eddis, is now Attolian ambassador to the Mede Empire. His new position really speaks fully of how things have improved and evolved politically between Eddis and Attolia. And an interesting transition between Ornon being officially Eddis's man and now he is Attolis's. I adore the relationship between Gen and Ornon by the way. I feel like their unique relationship is one of the most well created parts of the series. There's something so intimately familiar and down home about their acidity toward each other. Clearly, they go "way back." Their frenemies.

Date: 7/8/17 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] an-english-girl.livejournal.com
In real world terms:
1. The title assumed by a consort of a reigning monarch depends on the terms of the individual marriage treaty.
2. A person with multiple titles is [almost] always addressed by their highest ranking title. [Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall is an exception] So, as both Sophos and Helen are reigning monarchs of their respective countries, if being announced by a herald or such they would continue to be "Sounis Sophos and Eddis Helen," because that title ranks higher than their title as consort.

Irene?

Date: 7/20/17 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] more-ruthless.livejournal.com
I agree, except, Costis was blown away when Eug. called Attloia "Irene." So at least in Attolia, they are not using her given name in announcements.
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