[identity profile] 2b3g1gs3gd.livejournal.com
We still don't know who Gitta Kingsdaughter is. I'm fine with that. If I remember correctly, MWT said that she wasn't actually coming into the story.

But her tutor is Tykus Namikus. I don't know exactly what language Attolian, Sounisian, and Eddisian are based on. Medieval Greek, maybe? Wikipedia claims that: The word name comes from Old English nama; cognate with Old High German (OHG) namo, Sanskrit नामन् (nāman), Latin nomen, Greek ὄνομα (onoma), and Persian نام (nâm), from the Proto-Indo-European (PIE) *h₁nómn̥.

Is there any way that Tykus Namikus could mean King-Namer? I can certainly see Kamet becoming tutor to a royal princess a few decades down the road. He reads and writes in five languages, and I'm sure he could pick up others pretty quickly if need be.

Does this make any sense to anyone else?
[identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com
Time for our next chat, where we'll discuss Thick As Thieves. Come discuss the Bromance of "The Attolian" and Kamet, Gen as a Kitchen Boy, and yet another dead dog.

The chat will be on Sunday September 27 at these times:

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Chats will take place in the Conspiracy Room. Password is HERE. All are welcome, but you have to be a member of the community to access the password.

Theories

Jul. 8th, 2019 10:59 pm
[identity profile] drollittle.livejournal.com
I’ve been scrounging through past posts and comments looking for discussions of a few ideas and haven’t found quite what I was looking for, so here they are:

1. Back in The Thief, when Eugenides tells the Magus and company the stories of his god, he says that he leaves something out. Have we ever been told what he left out?
Kamet says that part of a tablet is missing from the story of Immakuk and Ennikar—the part that explains exactly how they stole the oil of immortality. Is it possible that these two missing pieces could be connected? Is there a reason why sandal-polisher Eugenides was so interested in Kamet’s Mede mythology? Did the god Eugenides help Immakuk and Ennikar steal (key word: steal) the oil of immortality and does said oil have anything to do with Hamiathes’ Gift?

2. When Kamet has to change his shirt in front of Costis he says something to the effect that “for a moment my secret was visible” (I don’t have the book in front of me now so that might not be an exact quote). On my first reading I assumed he meant the scars on his back from being whipped, but I think he had already said that the scars were visible at the neck of his shift, so maybe he has some other secret? For a few crazy hours I theorized that Kamet might be a woman—after all, the entire book is written in first person so he calls himself “I” not “he,” but then I found the line where he says “I could have been the most powerful man in the empire,” so that theory is probably not true. Any other ideas?
[identity profile] ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com
Welcome to section two of the Thick as Thieves community wide re-read. This week we’re covering chapters 4-6 (p86-181), that’s from lines: “We were more than halfway to Perf.” to “I dropped beside him.” All page numbers are from the 2017 hardcover edition.

If you were starting to get bored of Costis’s and Kamet's caravan jaunt through the desert, hang in there, because things are about to get dicey.

First a summary... )


Section Two Discussion )


Next week we will be covering chapters 7-10 and [livejournal.com profile] whataliethatwas will be your lead. Happy reading!

[identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com

Welcome to Week One of our Thick As Thieves reread! This week we’ll discuss Chapters 1 through 3, pages 1 - 85 in the hardback edition.

[livejournal.com profile] ninedaysaqueen said we can structure this however we want, so I decided to break it into the elements I like most to consider when I’m reading one of Megan’s books. For TaT, those would include an important theme, the hints and tricks that Megan lays out for us, the humor in the book, the growth of the main character(s), and the stories/poems. Add your comments and let’s start a discussion!


Numbers in parenthesis refer to page numbers in the American hardback edition.

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[identity profile] terri-testing.livejournal.com
We readers learned, at the end of Thick as Thieves (TaT), the real reason why Gen stole Kamet from Nahuseresh: 

“It wasn’t spite or friendship,” I said, glancing sideways at the king…. This was why I had been brought from the Empire, and this was why the Namreen had hunted us so relentlessly.  Not because Nahuseresh had been murdered, but because the emperor feared I could tell the king of Attolia where he was hiding his navy.” (TaT)

Just as, at the end of The King of Attolia (KoA) we found out the real reason why Gen decided to interfere with young Costis’s life.  Not spite, and not black humor, as Costis had thought throughout the book.  Policy.

“Sometimes, if you want to change a man’s mind, you change the mind of the man next to him first…. Archimedes said that if you gave him a lever long enough, he could move the world.  I needed to move the Guard.  I needed to move you [Teleus].” (KoA, p. 381)

Gen said this, so it must be true.  Right?  In the denouement, no less.  It’s not like Gen ever is known to state untruths or partial truths, or Turner to mislead her readers. 
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[identity profile] ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com
We're re-read Thick as Thieves here on [livejournal.com profile] sounis this month to celebrate the first anniversary of its release. Click HERE for the reading schedule and more info on how you can participate.

This week we're reading CHAPTERS 1-3 (p1-85)* 85 pages total or approximately the first 2 hours and 10 minutes of the audio narration if you're listening.

Revist Kamet's aquaphobia, Costis speaking Mede like an over-sized child, Laela's deceptive pallor, escaping the Namreen on a slow moving river boat that's on fire, and Kamet as an apathetic caravan guard.

This particular re-read will be a little more interactive, as we're asking each participant to make their own post each week for discussing the book(s) rather then follow a lead. Feel free to also use the comment section of this post to discuss. If you don't have anything to say one particular week, just skip on to the next.

In case you wanted to revist the initial TaT discussions from 2017, you can find that HERE.

Happy reading!

*page numbers are from the 2017 hardcover edition.

[identity profile] terri-testing.livejournal.com
We know that Kamet was never told about the navy massing, or that it was being hidden in the strait north of the tiny port of Hemet in the province of Hemsha.  But what about his master?

If this has been canvassed before, I apologize.

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[identity profile] ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com
Remember that mysterious line from KoA that we investigated HERE and HERE?

“I hope you know that I could once jump from the palace to those roofs over there.” He eyed the empty space below him and said sadly, “If I tried now, I’d probably eviscerate myself when I landed. But it does give me an idea for what to do with you.” - The King of Attolia p335 (2017 paperback edition)

Mystery Solved! )

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mwt gets some serious love: http://thebooksmugglers.com/2017/10/book-review-thick-thieves-megan-whalen-turner.html

swimming

Jul. 22nd, 2017 10:54 am
[identity profile] kiscakat.livejournal.com
I was just rereading (for the millionth time) QoA, and I came across this (in regards to when Kamet & Nahuseresh escaped from Ephrata): "The slave released him, and in the confusion they managed to reach the outer stairs to the harbor.  They swam to a Mede ship moored in the harbor and escaped.  I'm very sorry."  (p.323)

TaT - SPOILER ALERT!!!!

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[identity profile] 11rod88staff11.livejournal.com
MWT saw the hegemonic patriarchal, traditionally binary stories of old and flipped them around upon their heads. Saw duality and gave us the spectrum of all infinite possibility and Oneness in its place:

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[identity profile] checkers65477.livejournal.com
I've been putting off posting about this, in order to think some things through, but folks have been commenting about it in the Chapter 13 section of the GIANT Thick As Thieves discussion. I was afraid it would be lost there and thought I'd bring the discussion out here where more people will see it, so here goes.

Lots of spoilers here, stay away! )

What do you think is going on, everyone?
[identity profile] booksrgood4u.livejournal.com

Hi Sounis!!!

I have not been here in so long! I got locked out of both LJ and my backup email (what possessed my 13 yo self to set my security question to the last name of the maid of honor at my wedding is almost more of a mystery than my actual answer!) but anyway, I'm back! And bearing a discussion question, too!

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[livejournal.com profile] 1221bookworm

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[identity profile] ninedaysaqueen.livejournal.com
So, Checkers and I felt we were getting a tad disorganized with our discussions of TaT and overwhelming ourselves, so here's a little order in the chaos. Below are all current Sounis spoiler-y threads for discussing TaT. I will add new ones as we go along. Feel free to start your own thread. Just remember to hide spoilers under an LJ-cut with a clear warning.

This thread will remain "sticky" (at the top) for a few weeks or so, giving everyone a chance to read the book and comment.


SPOILERS! LOOK AWAY! )


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I've not seen this here yet.

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2017/05/16/the-big-idea-megan-whalen-turner/
[identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
My thoughts upon finishing Thick as Thieves. (A few of them, anyway.) Somewhat jumbled, many still processing. Numbered, in an attempt to organize them for discussion. Posting them here since the other threads are so lengthy already!

Spoilers under the cut!
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