[identity profile] pendrecarc.livejournal.com
And we've reached the end! Thank you so much to [livejournal.com profile] ninedaysaqueen for coordinating.

This week's discussion covers chapters 10 through the end, from "When I woke, the sun was up and the day was already warm." to " 'Thank you, thief.' 'You're welcome, my queen.' "

That is, I believe, the first time we hear anyone addressed directly as "My queen." It certainly isn't the last. :)

There's so much to cover here! Gen stealing the Gift a second time; more interference from the gods; Ambiades' and Pol's deaths; an introduction to the queens of Attolia and Eddis; and of course the revelations of Ambiades' treachery and Eugenides' true identity and motives.

I'm going to try something a little different with this post. I'll start a few threads in the comments, each with its own topic, which will hopefully seed the discussion in different directions! Feel free to respond to each of those if the topic interests you, or reply to this post and start your own.
[identity profile] an-english-girl.livejournal.com
For the third week of The Thief read-along, we’re covering chapters 7 to 9, from “Good feelings persisted between myself and the Magus until the next morning...” to “Darkness that was deeper than the river swallowed me up.”

They’re some pretty exciting chapters, as we finally get to see Gen ‘in action’ professionally, as it were, rather than just active in driving the Magus nuts, baiting the Uselesses and generally pursuing his own agenda :)Chapters 7-9 discussion )
[identity profile] silverflight8.livejournal.com
Welcome to the second part of the anniversary read-along of The Thief! This week's read-along is chapters 4-6. It starts with the sentence "WE STOPPED AGAIN EARLY IN the evening." and ends with "Did he sound genuinely flattered?" I'm not going to give page numbers because I have an ebook version, but my discussion's mostly chronological and I'll give quotes.

Like all the readalongs - SPOILERS! I'll also talk a little bit about the other books, so be wary if you haven't read them yet.

Chapters 4-6 discussion )

Stay tuned for the next instalment next week, hosted by [livejournal.com profile] an_english_girl, for chapters 7-9!
[identity profile] puppeteergirl.livejournal.com

I had so much fun during the character chat, that I thought it was worth it to pay ten bucks in order to save the full transcript. I do think it's a pretty sneaky way for Chatzy to get money. Honestly, it is better than ads though. Can you imagine being forced to watch a commercial for toilet paper before you are allowed to enter the chat room? Bleh.

Anyway, Livejournal won't let me paste the chat directly into this post, saying that it is too large. So I made a google doc and changed the settings so that anyone can see it, google doc users or not. Let me know if you can't access the link. There is a fun surprise ending (some of you are already aware of it though.)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11FEcHJTQPypnEUKvbNHG6Qxb-8LOlszWkzTYTfjqK_4/edit?usp=sharing

[identity profile] freenarnian.livejournal.com
Yes, that is a terrible title, and no, I couldn't think of a better one. (But I'll take suggestions.)

Lately I've been thinking about father figures in fiction. And, in the ongoing quest to discuss every single aspect of the Queen's Thief series, I naturally turned the focus of these thinkings onto Gen and company.

I am your father. )
[identity profile] thesehnsucht.livejournal.com
I remember there was a discussion on pry bars way back. In The Thief, Pol hands Gen a pry bar when he is breaking in the temple to find Hamiathes's Gift, and Gen mentions that it is his. We were wondering about the logistics of a thief carrying one around, since pry bars are big and heavy, and a thief needs to be fast and sneaky. Well, I was on countycomm.com drooling about some mini lighters they sell, and I ran into these little gems...

Read more... )

[identity profile] mortalasabee.livejournal.com
I work on a farm, and recently I was looking around the shop for a pry bar to tear apart an old chicken coop.

I'm sure you know exactly where my mind went, and if yours doesn't go to the same place I will be greatly disappointed in you.

When I finally found it (it was cleverly hidden right in front of me) I picked it up, and it was a comfort to have it in my hand, even though I was sure there was nothing living in the chicken coop. I was smiling at my geeky self when a sudden question hit me:

Why on earth was Pol carrying a pry bar?

Naturally, this question distracted me for the rest of the day, and I speculated and formulated theories all the time I was ripping into the coop. As soon as work was done I called my best friend (you may remember him from this story of his birthday) and we speculated and formulated theories together.

Here's what we came up with.

Pol is a soldier. He is therefore used to traveling prepared. But why would a soldier need a pry bar? Certainly not for protection, as I'm sure he is more adept with a sword, and with Gen along he probably wasn't planning on breaking in anywhere himself. Was he carrying it for Gen to use? This would make sense; the Magus probably guessed that Gen would need one. However, it seems odd that Pol would carry an awkward, heavy tool up and down a mountain on the off chance that Gen would ask for one. It made us wonder what else he was carrying just in case Gen wanted it. Wouldn't it have made sense, if you are going to haul a tool across three countries, that you would ask Gen, the well-behaved tool, what tools he would need?

Now for some photos.

The modern pry bar I was using looked like this.

We could see how a tool like this could be useful to Gen. It could be used for propping open windows or doors and finding the treasure box hidden in the bedframe. While we still could not see why Pol would happen to have such a tool, we did think that it was small enough and light enough to be plausible. However, there are some objections to this tool: first, it is not very big, and I don't think you could break a big piece of obsidian with it, even though the tool Gen had was probably iron and a lot heavier than the modern ones. And if it was heavy enough, why would Pol be carting such a heavy tool around? Second, it is very flat, and would be hard to trip over.


Here is another, larger, heavier pry bar, (looks like a crowbar but the website I found it on sells it as a pry bar, which I guess means nothing in the QT world but, well, there's no wiki article on ancient Greek pry bars,) which looks similar to the one on the cover of this edition of TT.


I think this is more likely what Gen was using. It looks like it could easily be used to break the obsidian window, and is of great enough girth to be painfully tripped over. But, even more than the last one, I cannot believe that Pol would have carried this the whole way. I have used a crowbar before and they are really freakin heavy, and the one Gen used was probably iron, and one this size would be

Another theory, which we both dismissed as preposterous, is that Gen needed something to break the glass with, and so mwt gave Pol a pry bar. Convenient pry bar is convenient. I simply cannot believe this to be true. I trust our author too much.

So I know that there must be some logical reason. What do you all think? Does our "Pol wouldn't carry such a clumsy tool without being sure it would needed" theory hold water? Can you think of any reason why Pol had one? Help!







PS Later, after he drops the pry bar and the lamp in the trap, he says " I didn't want to waste the time it would take to go back out to the magus to get another lamp and a pry bar..."
What does he think Pol is, the source of neverending pry bars?


PPS I hope no one laughs at me for obsessing over a pry bar.




[identity profile] mortalasabee.livejournal.com
Hello my fellow darling reprobates!
I just think this is too funny, and I had to share it with you.

I have cajoled my new housemate into reading The Thief (he says he never read much as a kid, so I started him on a regiment of The Chronicles of Narnia, but one day I didn't have the next book so to sustain him I loaned him TT) and he seems to really like it! Last time I excitedly asked him, he was halfway through, where they were going into "that other country" and "the Magus dude" is talking about the gift. :D

What I find hilarious, though, is that he is visualizing the characters as the characters from the Disney "Aladdin." The Magus is Jafar, Gen is Aladdin, and "the Pol guy" is that big burly guard. Sounis, fortunately, is not the sultan.

I wonder what will happen once he meets Attolia...a translucent silk bikini, perhaps? Hummmm....

Gigglingly,
Mortalasabee
[identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
ETA: Please keep your comments completely ACoK-Spoiler-Free so everyone can participate! :-)

Hello everybody! I hope you are ready for discussion times, because I am bringing them! (I hope.)

This week we read from "I didn't know how long I had been in the king's prison" to "As far as I could see there was nothing to steal, nothing at all."

Favorite line: If the king needed to know how many shafts of grain grew on a particular acre of land, the magus could tell him. If the king wanted to know how many farmers would starve if he burned that acre of grain, the magus knew that, too. (chapter 1, I don't know why, it just always makes me laugh)

Favorite scene: The entirety of chapter 7, for the "beating Gen for no reason" scary scene and the "let's tie Gen's hands too tight" scene. It's a moment of simple stupidty and arrogance on Ambiades's part, but it irrevocably seals Ambiades's and Gen's relationship.

Things to chew on (hopefully with our mouths closed, please): What gets me about this first section of the book is how brilliantly MWT uses first-person POV. From the occasional bits of present tense we know he's telling the story to someone, and within the first chapter he's given us plenty of reasons to think he's not just scum of the gutter based on the information he conveys which we, as the readers, take as par for the course without bothering to wonder why he knows so much about the history of the invaders and their socio-economic policies.

Also, we stopped halfway through the novel, and we're right before the beginning of the real plotty part of the book. Beautiful.

So, for discussion: Other clues about Gen's identity? Anyone else want to gush about how incredibly visual the descriptions are? How do people feel about Ambiades? What strikes all y'all about these chapters? Your favorite lines! Your favorite scenes!

Discuss away!

For next week: The Thief, chapters 8-12.
[identity profile] aspectabund.livejournal.com
Arggggh I wish to draw fanart but I cannot find my boooooks. For some reason, I've never been able to get a mental image of certain characters, or cannot separate them from each other in my mind. Quick! Character descriptions!

Nahblahblah (can only remember red beard D:), Kamet, and how do Pol and Teleus differ? Lol, Teleus is basically Pol to me, although every now and then I picture one less chin stubbly than the other. And, I am sad to admit these ones but... I can't remember either Magus' or Sophos' descriptions. I know Sophos' personality, which tends to help with how they look, but I rarely read character descriptions. Because I am dumb.

Halp. o3o
[identity profile] philia-fan.livejournal.com
So...here's a discussion question for fun:  Who is your favorite MINOR character in the books, and why?  Or, which minor character would you like to know more about?

Have at it.
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